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Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:41 am Reply and quote this post
yeah but SLI isnt as good as just buying a more higher end graphics card. unless you have SLI of 2 high end GFX cards.

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Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:12 am Reply and quote this post
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Maybe if you read the article you will understand.


No... uh... the article lists three manners in which Vista will support OpenGL, one of those is in much the same way XP does today....

...?

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I found some sellers for some parts of my pc, are they good or not enough?

ATI RADEON x700 PRO 256MB Seller price: 100$ shop price: 200$

ASUS P5ND2-SLI Deluxe Seller price: 140$ Shop Price: 190$


The Radeon X700 should go in favor of a Geforce 6600 GT or a Radeon X800 GT. Both of those cards perform much better, and if you want my honest opinion, the Geforce 6600 GT is a better buy.

As far as the motherboard, I'll agree with Predator in that you can find a much cheaper one than that.

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You don't need a dual core for good gaming. In fact, some of the single core Athlon 64's are better, as long as you don't want to multitask.


Single-core chips can multitask just fine... they're just a lot slower at it. Also, dual-cores are so cheap these days... and seeing as how games will be multithreaded, I'd see a dual-core as an effective method of future-proofing the machine.

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Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:53 am Reply and quote this post
does athlon 3500+  beat Pentium D. 2.8ghz?
they r like the same price


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Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:42 am Reply and quote this post
AMD Athlon 64 3000+
EPoX 9NPA+ Ultra
1024MB DDR
Antec Sonata II w/ 450W SmartPower 2.0
Floppy Drive
Western Digital 250GB Caviar SE
LiteOn 16x16 DVD+/-RW
GeForce 6800GS 256MB
Windows XP Home Edition

Thats from a local shop, comes to $1086.50 CDN without tax.  The processor is also very overclockable so you can give it a good boost.


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Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:35 pm Reply and quote this post
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does athlon 3500+  beat Pentium D. 2.8ghz?
they r like the same price

Quick answer - yes
But, since the Pentium D is dual-core, it will beat the AMD when you have multiple things going.  So, if you're a heavy multitasker on the computer, go with the Pentium D.  If not, and especially if you want it for games, go with the AMD.

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Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:07 pm Reply and quote this post
This is being so hard to choose a pc :P

Everytime I check prices and all, since dualcore is the new technology, makes logic to me that future games will need dualcore..

so i dont know if i should spen like 1300 instead of 1000 and get an athlon 3800+ so it will last me for long, what you guys think?

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Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:35 pm Reply and quote this post
I do think that the 3800 would be a very good one to get, though I doubt it will raise the price by that much.
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:39 pm Reply and quote this post
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Thats from a local shop, comes to $1086.50 without tax. The processor is also very overclockable so you can give it a good boost.


Is that Canadian?

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Quick answer - yes
But, since the Pentium D is dual-core, it will beat the AMD when you have multiple things going. So, if you're a heavy multitasker on the computer, go with the Pentium D. If not, and especially if you want it for games, go with the AMD.


I feel inclined to mention that the Pentium D 820 will perform just fine at any game (IE, with the same graphics card you won't be able to tell the difference without FRAPS), and it will perform faster in a lot of other things. Games are also jumping on the multi-threading train, so having a Pentium D might be beneficial.

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so i dont know if i should spen like 1300 instead of 1000 and get an athlon 3800+ so it will last me for long, what you guys think?


Yeah, it would. I'd recommend going dual-core, whatever you do. The Pentium D is a good buy... but the Athlon 64 X2 3800+ is a better one.

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Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:08 pm Reply and quote this post
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Thats from a local shop, comes to $1086.50 without tax. The processor is also very overclockable so you can give it a good boost.


Is that Canadian?

Woopsy, yes that is Canadian. :P

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Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:58 am Reply and quote this post
well im gona go with athlon 3800+, geforce 6600gt. Any suggestions for a motherboard around the 150$ canadian or 125$ U.S.
Also, would that processor need extra cooling?

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Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:36 am Reply and quote this post
I didn't read most of this topic, but if this is mainly a gaming rig and you have a limited budget get a 3000+ and buy a better video card. An Opteron 144 would be the best option if you are overclocking.

Also, no, it would not need extra cooling. The retail package will come with a HSF that will be fine.

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Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:33 am Reply and quote this post
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well im gona go with athlon 3800+, geforce 6600gt. Any suggestions for a motherboard around the 150$ canadian or 125$ U.S.
Also, would that processor need extra cooling?

Like Drew said, with your budget you should probably get either a 3000+ or Opteron 144 and overclock so you can invest in a better video card.  And for the mobo I'd recommend an EPoX 9NPA+ Ultra.

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Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:19 pm Reply and quote this post
:D thx alot for the help guys, all of you, i really appreciate it :D I will get the computer next thursday and I'll try to post a screenshot :)

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Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:10 pm Reply and quote this post
What did you decide on?
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Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:01 pm Reply and quote this post
I will get an athlon 3800+.
For 4 reasons:
Because it's better than pentium
Because it's dualcore and I dont want to be upgrading every 6 months or so.
Because I play games but not alot so a 200$ video card is more than good for me :D
And finaly because you guys helped me alot since it would have taken me an eternity to look for the information i needed :D

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