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Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:52 pm Reply and quote this post
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The terms hacker and hack have controversial definitions.

Among some computer programmers in good standing with the technical community, the words hacker and hacking are used more often in the admiring or awed sense of a skilled software developer. People favoring this usage typically look with dismay on the usage of the term as a synonym for security cracking.

In the non-technical community, the word hacker most often describes someone who "hacks into" a system by evading or disabling security measures.


IF you look through technology , computers, hacking history. You will see that hackers have causes a huge mess around the internet and on computers since the 1980s

Now the proper hacker is someone who wants all information on the internet to be readable and not kept in a locked folder.

I just watched the movie "hackers" and it focuses losely on a group of hackers known as the 414s. A hacking group of teenagers (1983) who hacked into national US banks etc.

But we can see that hackers are responsible for the GNU movement you see today (free opensource software) and the LINUX OS.

Not only that hackers are prodominently responsible for the software revolution and the technology revolution that we have seen in the past 20 years. Hackers have written programsns (or programning languages) like Napster, Bittorrent, LISP, PHP Python, C++, even the internet and ALOT more. These are insiginificant examples compared to the ammount of software and languages they have made.

Do you guys thank we can thank hackers for the evolution of WEB technology and computing advancements?

I'll be writing an article on this in the next few days so keep an eye out for it .[/quote]

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Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:04 am Reply and quote this post
LOL   Lucas I watched the same programme, it was ace, I love the fact that the command centre thingy was all '80's' and Angelina jolie with short hair!!!

The whole hacker image in that film was so corny...

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Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:14 pm Reply and quote this post
The Hackers theme is good by orbital haha... me and will played uplink too

Maybe there is some misinterpretation here; there are two kinds of hacker. Malicious, and hacking as in modifying. those kinds of hackers are the ones who have developer PHP (just like this site), and some other web technologies more so the open source and freely available source ones. Also these hackers enable things like iPods and PSP's to run linux, and allow modifications to be added to popular web and computer software. These are usually members of an open source community.

The malicious hackers either have some hippy/world peace/see-if-ufos-exist /stoner motivation, or are snooty nosed 13 year old pale faced script kiddies, or belong to a criminal network in Turkey or Algeria.
We have nothing to thank them for, and we have to go to great expense to keep them out, but you might say "well many hackers go on to help security organisations develop software", that's all very well although take away those hackers/virus creators and you don't need security as such

So we cant thank what everyone thinks of as a hacker atall, but we can thank those hackers with good intentions (remember not the hippie ones, just the ones I prefer to call modders or the like)

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Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:52 pm Reply and quote this post
ywe there AKA Black hat hackers (bad hackers), White hat Hackers(good), Grey hat hackers (inbetweenys but take no part in illeal hacking)

well tht is wikis explanation

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Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:35 pm Reply and quote this post
i watched a move called

pirates of da silicon valley

and another documantary about the blue box and other stuff.

hacking really did help society.

it created many things that we use today :O

operating systems and computer programs and ec.t

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Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:52 am Reply and quote this post
wow do we all watch the same tv   i saw it as well. i fell asleep before the end but yh.

personally i think both forms of hackers do help to improve and progress software and technology, even if they do piss a few people off in the meantime. if i take phpBB as an example (cause i know too much about it ), which is a BB software, only due to hacking groups cracking the software did it really progress and become as secure as it is nowadays. Without those hackers the BBS would still be very insecure and probably wouldn't have continued to run as long as it has.

hackers = thumbs up


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Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:34 am Reply and quote this post
On a side note ; I really don't like that film.. I suppose it was right for the producers to not appeal to the smaller target market and to aim to make it something for everyone but it did seem a little pathetic.
As for can we thank hackers, of course. I don't think there is a right and wrong in this situation.

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Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:17 am Reply and quote this post
It depends on what type of hacker, whether it will benefit technology in the future or just annoying people on their computers.
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:37 am Reply and quote this post
Exactly, the word 'hacker' to the general public means someone who cracks systems. It doesn't take lot of research to find Cult of the dead cow, Ninja strike force etc. Hacking isn't about name dropping and tapping systems, it's about creating software and making it freely available. The best hackers aren't the selfish people who get kicks, but the more selfless who, granted, tend to have somewhat large ego, but are willing to give up their time to help others.
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