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Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:25 pm Reply and quote this post
My computer does not work currently, and I assume it's because I need a new PSU (It's been having problems ever since I installed my new video card, and it's recommended 20A on the 12V rail, mine only has 15A).  So, I'm looking at a new PSU.  I think this is the one I want, but if anyone can find one with more then 20A on the 12V, good reviews, and better price, I'm all ears.  Thanks

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Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:52 pm Reply and quote this post
That Rosewill PSU is pure garbage. The PSU is the single most important and overlooked component in a PC. Don't skimp on it.

No KT266A motherboard has a 4-pin +12V P4 connector. Because of this, the CPU's core voltage is regulated off of the power supplys +5v rail as opposed to the +12v rail. Because of this you should not buy a supply with dual +12v rails (the second rail would not be usable, leaving you with the little thats left on the other rail), nor should you buy one with more amperage on the +12v then the +5v. Doing so would increase the risk for cross-loading issues.

Something with a decent combined 3.3v+5v rating is best. Your system does not draw much power at all and does not need 20A on the +12v rail. I would suggest something like a Fortron FSP400-60PN or FSP350-60PN. Both of those are great supplys, are cheap and more then enough to power your system.


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Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:04 pm Reply and quote this post
What's your budget?

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This ModStream is the only PSU that is decent, near your budget, and has above 20A on a single +12V rail. However, the voltage on the +5V rail is much higher than that which runs through the +12V rail.


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Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:48 pm Reply and quote this post
KD, Why is that Rosewill garbage?  It looks good to me.  It also meets all the guidelines that you suggested.
No, my current setup doesn't need it.  But, I've got a S939 rig that I'm putting together, with an ECS APG/PCI-E mobo (don't laugh), and a A64 3700.  That will need it.

Predator, do you have a link?


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Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:21 am Reply and quote this post
Rosewill isn't a known brand to work very well.
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:33 am Reply and quote this post
Most of the Rosewill I have seen are either Powmax or ATNG made. If you could find a better picture of the PSU's label so I could read the UL file number, I could tell you who made it. However, either way, I you shouldn't bother with them. Somebody would have to pay me to put a Powmax in my rig. Don't even bother with the Modstream either. It's not nearly as bad, but not in the same class as a Fortron or the OCZ Powerstream. It lacks independant regulation, cross-load tolerance, and has fairly limited 12V output.

There are a few PSU's that I would recommend to power a +5v oriented rig and then power a +12v hungry rig later, but they will cost a bit. The Silverstone Zeus ST56ZF, PC Power and Cooling 510W, Zippy HP2-6460P or Zippy HP2-6500P will do the job.

The Zippy 460W will likely be the cheapest of those if you can find it (servercase.com sells Zippy), but neither Zippy unit will be very silence oriented. The Silverstone will be the quietest of them, but it is a bit expensive.


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Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:42 pm Reply and quote this post
Here's a good picture
I'll take a look at those, KD.  Thanks for the info.

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Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:59 am Reply and quote this post
I still cannot read the UL file number (under the backwards \"UR\" symbol).
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:29 pm Reply and quote this post
I can't find a better pic, sorry.
Well, how about this one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817103932
I can get one for $65

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Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:00 pm Reply and quote this post
http://www.atacom.com/program/print_html_n..._46&USER_ID=www
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:22 pm Reply and quote this post
Nope, way too expensive for me.
What about that Antec?

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Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:13 am Reply and quote this post
That Antec has dual +12v rails. You wouldn't even be able to use the second rail and it could cause problems.

Get the Zippy HP2-6460P. It is the cheapest option I would recommend for powering a +5v oriented rig and then switching to a +12v power hungry rig later.

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Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:48 pm Reply and quote this post
Why can't I use both rails?
Since my card has a place for an external power connector, I should be able to.  One for the card, and one for the other stuff.
I know that having 2x 19A isn't as good as 1x 38A, but it's alot better then just 1x 19A.
btw, I've decided this will just be for my S939 rig, as I'll have all the parts to get it going.  And today, I got my comp working again, so I should be ok for a little while till I get the new psu and all the other parts for my S939 comp.


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Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:04 pm Reply and quote this post
The KT266A does not have a 4-pin +12V P4 connector. That;s why the second rail will not be able to be used. CPU is supposed to be on one rail and the rest on the other.

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I know that having 2x 19A isn't as good as 1x 38A, but it's alot better then just 1x 19A.


Using it with your current system you would only get +12v@19A

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btw, I've decided this will just be for my S939 rig, as I'll have all the parts to get it going. And today, I got my comp working again, so I should be ok for a little while till I get the new psu and all the other parts for my S939 comp.


Then that changes everything. Get a Fortron AX500-A. It is around $70 (don't buy it from newegg, they charge like $90).

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Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:50 pm Reply and quote this post
So, where should I get it for $70?
What about this one?  I know Aspire isn't one of the best, but this one looks good, 35A on the 12V rail, and good reviews.  And also, I can get one for like $45

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