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Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:26 am Reply and quote this post
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1300€ for a case??? wtf did you bought man, a titanium alloyed body armor case to protect your warez??

jep and a self destruction mode for if the police drop's in llol

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Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:35 am Reply and quote this post
Well I'm bringing this topic back alive

Ok so my search continues and vandenborre has some new pc's again.
you can find the pc's on
Code:
http://www.vandenborre.be/WEB/NL/Computer/Page78.vdb?Detail=LmqaOqqaQitbbe9nQC8k

If you see a good pc in this list plz post it

I found a pc I dunno it's good but it says gaming computer, so is this one good or not:

Code:
http://www.vandenborre.be/WEB/NL/ACER-AS-M3610-ZE7Z+19/Page77.vdb?Detail=KmqaOqqaQitbbe9nQ6qaM6NmOm9n


And this one:
Code:
http://www.vandenborre.be/WEB/NL/ACER-AS-M5500-E177/Page77.vdb?Detail=KmqaOqqaQitbbe9nQ6qaM6NmOqdn




Thx for the help

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Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:57 am Reply and quote this post
nice nice
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Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:23 pm Reply and quote this post
well, the last one gets my vote. nvidia 8600gt with a "quad-core" cpu. not bad at all
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:31 am Reply and quote this post
You think this one is really good or I should get better for that price?
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:11 am Reply and quote this post
mmm maybe a bargain is around the corner but i think you got yourself a good deal. definitely when looking at prize and quality..
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Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:31 am Reply and quote this post
Well I don't know, It's like you say a verry good computer but for that price you can find one with a printer/scanner , a 19" screen and wireless mouse and board. So I'm not sure if the deal is verry good :S

I saw that computer at carrefour:

Code:
Intel Pentium dual-core Processor E2140
2 GB Ram
Hard drive 500 GB Sata3-G
Wifi 802.11 b&g
geheugenkaartlezer 15-in-1
Windows vista home premium
Firewire

Extra's:
19" screen
a printer/scanner/kopier
wireless mouse and wireless board.


Well I'm not sure about all this, but that Quadcore is 899 without all extra's and that dual core is also 899 with screen...

What should I do ..

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Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:06 pm Reply and quote this post
depends on what you want. do you need a new screen, printer,... or do you just need a pc with all the extra thingys
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Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:14 pm Reply and quote this post
Well I have an old screen and printer but they are still good for a little time. what I really want to know sure is that I really should go for that quadcore. If this really is a pc that's good for gaming (I mean verry good ) , has a verry good graphic's card, ...

So what is the difference between that quad- and dual core pc?
If the difference is not so big would you suggest me to go for that dual core?

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Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:03 am Reply and quote this post
Ok just wonna know

Code:
Intel Pentium dual-core Processor E2140
2 GB Ram
Hard drive 500 GB Sata3-G
Wifi 802.11 b&g
geheugenkaartlezer 15-in-1
Windows vista home premium
Firewire

Extra's:
19" screen
a printer/scanner/kopier
wireless mouse and wireless board.


Is this pc a good one for latest games and stuff?
Because I think I'm going for that one (from Carrefour)

Plz reply fast because they are sold out quickly

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Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:47 am Reply and quote this post
Well I was considering about taking a laptop now
So I'm looking for one , if anyone knows a good shop for laptops, tell me

I found one, dunno if it's good or not:

Code:
http://www.vandenborre.be/WEB/NL/TOSHIBA-SAT-A200-1G2/Page77.vdb?Detail=KmqaOqqaQitbbe9nS6qaM2doO.tm


And this one:
Code:
http://www.vandenborre.be/WEB/NL/ACER-AS7520G-5A2G12MI/Page77.vdb?Detail=KmqaOqqaQitbbe9nS6qaM6dnOado


Prices are different, First one is 945€ and secon 799€, but if there isn't a lot difference between those two pc's I might go for the one from 799€, or you guys sugest I have to look somewhere else?

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Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:21 pm Reply and quote this post
well, why don't you go to the dell website and order one. you can costumize it yourself, but note this. Games that are going to be released this year and next year are gonna be hard to run on those that you found at van den borre
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Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:42 am Reply and quote this post
The most important things inside a computer if you plan on gaming are the following:

CPU = Processor

RAM = Memory

MOBO = Motherboard

GPU = Graphics Card

These are the 3 main things to look at for a great gaming system others would then be:

PSU = Power Supply

HDD = Hard drives

These are things you may upgrade but not essential since we are looking at the first selection.

Once you have decided on the MOBO you want its time to take a look at what speeds (BUS) the motherboard supports so lets say the MOBO supports 1033MHz FSB this would mean a Core2Duo Extreme CPU would be perfect for this MOBO using its full potential.
So that would mean MOBO BUS speed =1033Mhz.
Get a CPU with 1033MHz FSB or you can get a lower grade lets say 800MHz FSB.

Now heres where RAM comes into play, so you have just gone out bought your new MOBO & CPU the current FSB is bottlenecked on the MOBO since your CPU supports a Max FSB of 800Mhz.
The best bet here is to buy RAM that also supports 800Mhz FSB (PC2 6400) this is 800MHz FSB RAM so now you are currently running a 1/1 ratio with your CPU/RAM = Best performance this also means that if you overclock you CPU you will also be overclocking your RAM at a 1/1 ratio unless you modify certain ram settings like placing a divider on the ram  then obviously you will be slowing the ram down and then losing the 1/1 ratio with the CPU.

Graphics card is basically somthing you wanna look at if you are going to be a gamer choosing which GPU depends on how far you wanna go with your gaming if you wanna play games on Max settings at a high screen resolution then you will be looking for somthing like 7900GT DX9 or 8600GT/GTS for DX10.
These 2 cards are lower budget models of the better stuff like 7950GT and the 8800GTS/GTX/Ultra.

Alot of people look at the RAM when they buy Graphics cards they see 512MB and think its the best buy this is wrong.
You only need lots of RAM on the GPU more for Graphics Design not game play since RAM doe's not increase performance all that much for performance increase you need to look at these things:

Memory Clock
Core Clock
Pixel Pipelines
DDR1/2/3/4

The pipelines are what increase performance the most like the 8800GTS as 96 Stream Processors and the GTX as 128 this is where the performance is gained plus the GTX as a higher clock rate but lets say you pumped the clock rate up on the GTS to be the same as the GTX the GTX would still perform better since it as the extra 32 pipelines a GTX is basically a 8600GT + 8800GTS in 1 considering its pipelines.


Anyway after reading this i hope you have a better understanding on how things perform within the system if i was gonna go out buy a new gaming rig these are the min specs i would rec:

CPU = Dual Core Intel or AMD lowest clock 3.6Ghz

RAM = 2GB 2x1GB sticks just incase you decided to update to Vista

MOBO = 1 that supports a max FSB of around 1033MHz and SLi (This is for future proofing yourself)

PSU = 800Watt SLi Verified (Incase you decide to run GTX / Ultras)

Case = Full ATX (Size Helps)

HDD = 7200RPM 16Mcache 2x 120GB RAID 0

And the rest of the stuff is up to you at the end of the day get what you need if its a gaming rig but your not to bothered about the max settings then just get the lower end stuff 7600GT will do that fine.

If you just wanna go on the next download a few tunes and chat websites wateva you people do then u dont need dual core cpus get a Pentium 4 3.0/800/1MB this will be fine plus 512MB ram.

PS

If i made any mistakes please let me know and i will edit thanks again.

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Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:37 pm Reply and quote this post
Wow, Thx for all the info
But can you tell me if I want all these minimums in my computer, so I'm able to game with a good graphics card, and all the other things you mentiond, witch price would be good I give out to a pc like that?

Let's say, would this be a good computer:
ACER AS.M5500-E177:
Code:
Intel Q6600 Quad Core
500 Gb
2048 Mb DDR2
8192 Kb
DVD+-R/RW dual layer brander
nVidia 8600GT
256 Mb / 1024 Mb DDR3
USB ports     8
Sound    Hi-definition audio 7.1
cardreader     18-in-1
Diskettestation     Neen
Modem     Neen
Wifi     Neen
FireWire     Ja
Bluetooth     Neen
TV tuner     Neen
PCI slots      3
Windows Vista Home Premium
Software included: 4 free games
Ram can be expand to: 4096 Mb


That's for the price of 899€. You think that's a good deal?

Edit:  I looked up the computer and because van den borre goes for the lowest price, I can ask 820€ for it.

P.S.:
I found a good site:
Code:
http://www.ppweb.be/office_centre_onlinefolder/images/originelen/2007/folder%2019-07/F19-07-OCB-definitief.pdf


These are laptops and computers, take a look here, if you recommend me a computer, laptop, just tell me. It's a dutch site, but I think English people understand him to , so plz take a look

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Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:25 pm Reply and quote this post
Yea thats a nice computer the CPU is 1033mhz FSB dunno about the ram and i dont know about the motherboard but that computer will play games fine the GPU is pretty decent aswel.

I never buy pre built computers since i like to build my own but yea thats a nice system price seems fair.

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