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Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:46 pm Reply and quote this post
I got my self a single stick of 512MB DDR400 OCZ premium RAM while I am waiting for the other one -- counting down the days --

The stock clocks are 2.3.3.7 @ 2.6V New egg has this pegged @ 2T where i had not issues running it @ 1T

I ran it upto 225FSB which isnt bad as it wasnt a test on how well the ram will clock before it would start to fail

Ive hit just under 2.90 MB/s with it  @ 204 and at 208 ive gone over 3200+ MB/s

I know there is REV2 that may use other chips but there is quite a jump in the chips sets that offer lower clocks but seaming as they all made the same way apart from the little chip on the end that defines the clocks and info..

I will go into testing this some more to see how tight this ram will run and how high it will clock....

Crucail Balistix DDR500

I really didnt think to much of this ram nor did it clock well, the times are loser and the simple fact that I managed to get a better clock from some ddr 333 ( the MICRON) its seams ODD that this ram costs over 5 times more
( balistx 2X512 Mic 2X 256)
I have never been a fan of crucial ram whats so ever as ever system build that i have seen ( not made) with this ram seamed to be running slower. I benched to bandwidth on the crucial and found that it was running slower, simply that the current system I am running I put the CB in and the Micron and well the CB didnt boot past 246FSB whichit is rated to run @ 250 thougth the times were 3.4.4.8 and the micron was 2.2.2.7 I did leave the times @ stock. the Micron clocked to 200FSB and had fan to 220 FSB considering this is DDR333 thats pretty good..


Everyone should undertand that 1 Clock cycle can make a massive difference in weather the system will boot and how much you get from your RAM by around 800MB/s per stick! :yes:

Form the results and information the main way ahead for buying ram will be Adata where it kicked out a massive 315 FSB  

I bet  your RAM aint getting that good!!

Take a look for your self..
http://www.rhcf.com/sisubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/34/82.html

ALSO...
The main bandwith of the AMD CPU ( winchesters) are about 4500MB/s so you really need to get to these speeds just to get in with some change, or for a peak performance you need 9500MB/s on the memory so there is no bottlenecks on your system.

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Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:07 am Reply and quote this post
Crucial Ballistix are not very recommended for Athlon 64 overclocking, although they do have very low latencies. I would recommend Corsair's TwinX or XMS Pro series, Kingston's HyperX, OCZ's EL Platinum Edition, and Geil's UltraX or Golden Dragon.
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Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:15 pm Reply and quote this post
my self i like good PC 4000 ram. puts a lot less strain on the CPU . You can get a 1 gig twin set for $170.00 2.5 4 4 7 timings .
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Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:42 pm Reply and quote this post
True. PC4000 RAM allows for much more overclocking headroom as opposed to PC3200 RAM.
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Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:37 pm Reply and quote this post
ruel of thumb if only overclocking to a FSB of 240 to 245  PC 3200 or PC 3500  is the choice. Overclocking over 250 FSb PC 4000 is pricless.
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Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:43 pm Reply and quote this post
Not really,

When you clock RAM it really depends on the stock times and the voltages it run at the stock times at.

I know alot of you got by the 2.2.2.5 say, But there is several other times that should be considered, I some times spend some time reading the while papers and tech info jst to get a good idea on what the ram is really like.

If there were some DDR500 with a 2.3.3.4 Clocks then this would be idea because a 3.4.4.6 should see DDR600 speeds :D
But then for max pefromance its really down to the TRC, and the Tras being able to hold it..
Im not a fan of corsair XMSI ve seen this in action on a FX53 its was somthing time 4560Mb/s and there was two gig's I think, which is pretty poor..

My prefrerd type currewntly is OCZ, as Ive not really had the checne to get a good trial run on the Adata myself.

I wrote off to DFI to get some of their latest mobos sent through for testing. I will take a look at these and get back on to Corsair and the other RAM makers to see what they have..  I like doing testing as I like to break as much stuff as possible ( with out the use of water and hammers) but then I know if I build systems then send them out that there safe and stable..

Gigabyte must be the worst RAM supporting mobo I have ever seen, the SPD are way off which make the ram clock slower by about 10-20% which is of course very inportant to get a GOOD motherboard to go with the rest of the kit..

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Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:45 pm Reply and quote this post
mother board dose make a nice difrence.
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Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:28 pm Reply and quote this post
True. I would suggest switching out that Gigabyte K8NF-9 for an Abit AV8, MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum, or EpoX EP-9NDA3+.

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Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:58 pm Reply and quote this post
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If there were some DDR500 with a 2.3.3.4 Clocks then this would be idea because a 3.4.4.6 should see DDR600 speeds :D
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.......very inportant to get a GOOD motherboard to go with the rest of the kit..

best motherboard memory combo i've seen yet
G.Skill PC4800 running DDR600 1T 2.5-3-3-6 , 2.9v on DFI LANParty UT nF4 Ultra-D

seen this with A64 3500 and FX-55

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Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:55 pm Reply and quote this post
Here are my similar settings.
Basically best RAM for any Athlon 64 platform is the \"OCZ EL DDR PC-4000 Dual Channel Gold VX\"
Link.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memo...channel_gold_vx


My current settings.

Athlon 64 3200+(90nm)@ 2.70GHz

OCZ EL GOLD Dual Ch DDR540 512MB X 2 (CL 2-2-2-8 @ 1T).
DFI LANParty nF4 Ultra- D PCI-E x16
ATI Radeon X800XL (Off to ATI for Repairs/Replace)
ATI Radeon X700Pro (Temp Card. Quite Nice in Performance)
OCZ 520W Power Stream
etc.

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Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:17 pm Reply and quote this post
Quote:
Here are my similar settings.
Basically best RAM for any Athlon 64 platform is the \"OCZ EL DDR PC-4000 Dual Channel Gold VX\"
Link.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memo...channel_gold_vx


My current settings.
Athlon 64 3200+(90nm)@ 2.70GHz
OCZ EL GOLD Dual Ch DDR540 512MB X 2 (CL 2-2-2-8 @ 1T).
DFI LANParty nF4 Ultra- D PCI-E x16
ATI Radeon X800XL (Off to ATI for Repairs/Replace)
ATI Radeon X700Pro (Temp Card. Quite Nice in Performance)
OCZ 520W Power Stream
etc.

Oh come on. OCZ fan boy :r:

There are other good companies like Crucial, Corsair, & Kingston.  :funky:

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Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:54 pm Reply and quote this post
Quote:
Here are my similar settings.
Basically best RAM for any Athlon 64 platform is the \"OCZ EL DDR PC-4000 Dual Channel Gold VX\"
Link.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memo...channel_gold_vx


My current settings.
Athlon 64 3200+(90nm)@ 2.70GHz
OCZ EL GOLD Dual Ch DDR540 512MB X 2 (CL 2-2-2-8 @ 1T).
DFI LANParty nF4 Ultra- D PCI-E x16
ATI Radeon X800XL (Off to ATI for Repairs/Replace)
ATI Radeon X700Pro (Temp Card. Quite Nice in Performance)
OCZ 520W Power Stream
etc.

I have to agree with Super on this. I don't think he is saying it. It's just fact, that is all ;)

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Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:56 pm Reply and quote this post
:ehhh: Yeah, right.  :angel: OCZ fan boys.  :woot:
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Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:07 am Reply and quote this post
Quote:
Quote:
Here are my similar settings.
Basically best RAM for any Athlon 64 platform is the \"OCZ EL DDR PC-4000 Dual Channel Gold VX\"
Link.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memo...channel_gold_vx


My current settings.
Athlon 64 3200+(90nm)@ 2.70GHz
OCZ EL GOLD Dual Ch DDR540 512MB X 2 (CL 2-2-2-8 @ 1T).
DFI LANParty nF4 Ultra- D PCI-E x16
ATI Radeon X800XL (Off to ATI for Repairs/Replace)
ATI Radeon X700Pro (Temp Card. Quite Nice in Performance)
OCZ 520W Power Stream
etc.

I have to agree with Super on this. I don't think he is saying it. It's just fact, that is all ;)

Isnt that OCZ 2-2-2-5 stock??

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Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:51 pm Reply and quote this post
super, you're running \" 1T 2.5-3-2-6 ddr600?\"

hmmm.. the best i could do with my EL PC4400 was \"1T 2.5-4-4-7\" .. maybe i should look closer at some voltage extreme

OZC ROCKS! .. what can i say money talks.. and OCZ ain't cheap!
kingston makes me wanna puke in my pants! :P

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