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Official G70 vs. R520 Thread
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:22 am Reply and quote this post
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/dis...n-x1800_23.html

Great competition between both NVIDIA & ATI.

Now all we need is G70 SLI vs. R520 AMR.

Topic pinned.

Feel free to discuss.

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Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:53 am Reply and quote this post
ATI and nVidia are back in the same place; two series of cards with fairly similar performance once you average it all out.  Then again it looks like the 7800 GTX had a few more crushing victories than the X1800 XT.

I think that CrossFire will be the deciding factor.  ATI appears to get more performance from the second card than nVidia, they also have some features with CrossFire that SLI doesn't.  And with the R520 they'll be able to bypass the 1600x1200 resolution limit.

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Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:36 pm Reply and quote this post
The problem is that the refresh rate is 60Hz for 1600x1200 and above.

And G70 can already bypass the 1600x1200 resolution limit....

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Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:57 pm Reply and quote this post
Missed that, 60Hz at over 1600x1200?  Bleh.

Oh and I did know the G70 can go over 1600x1200. :P

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Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:01 pm Reply and quote this post
Quote:
Missed that, 60Hz at over 1600x1200?  Bleh.

Oh and I did know the G70 can go over 1600x1200. :P

Correct. The refresh rate goes down to 60Hz for resolutions 1600x1200 and above.

Quote:
One of the biggest obstacles however is the fact that CrossFire can?t render at more than a 1600x1200 resolution with a 60Hz refresh rate. I do not need to tell you that such a low refresh rate is headache inducing on anything other than flat-panel displays. Many people that are potential customers for CrossFire are the die-hard gamers that mostly use CRTs still, so this is a major
drawback.

Source

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Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:20 am Reply and quote this post
Ouch. I can't work on anything under 85Hz before getting headache!!
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Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:49 pm Reply and quote this post
Do these spec's seem right to you all?

Here is the Quote from my e-mail.

X1600 Pro RV530 256MB GDDR3 500Mhz 390Mhz 128 Bits 5 / 12 DX9.0, PS3.0, VS3.0
X1600 XT RV530 256MB GDDR3 590Mhz 690Mhz 128 Bits 5 / 12 DX9.0, PS3.0, VS3.0

X1800 XL R520 256MB GDDR3 500Mhz 500Mhz 256 Bits 8 / 16 DX9.0, PS3.0, VS3.0
X1800 XT R520 256MB GDDR3 625Mhz 750Mhz 256 Bits 8 / 16 DX9.0, PS3.0, VS3.0

X1800 XT PE R520 512MB GDDR3 725Mhz 850Mhz 512 Bits 8 / 24 DX9.0, PS3.0, VS3.0
X1850 XT R560 512MB GDDR3 750Mhz 875Mhz 512 Bits 8 / 24 DX9.0, PS3.0, VS3.0
X1850XT PE R560 512MB GDDR3 800Mhz 925Mhz 512 Bits 8 / 24 DX9.0, PS3.0, VS3.0
X1900 XT R580 512MB GDDR4 900Mhz 1050Mhz 512 Bits 10 / 32 DX9.0, PS3.0, VS3.0
X1950  XT PE R580 512MB GDDR4 1000Mhz 1200Mhz 512 Bits 10 / 32 DX10.0, PS4.0, VS4.0
X2000 XT PE  R600   1024MB GDDR4 1220Mhz 1500Mhz 512 Bits 12 / 32 DX10.0, PS4.0, VS4.0


EAT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:50 pm Reply and quote this post
No, they do not seem right. Where did you get those from? O_o

X2000XT?...

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Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:37 am Reply and quote this post
O.K. 2 things,

Single X1800XT OC'ed \"CAN\"
beat 2 7800GTX in SLI :rolleyes:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26818

Oh, and the X1800 XT's can OC like MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I also seen the X2000XT posted on HWA. Here is the link.
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/12931/?o=500

Just scroll down & you will find it.
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Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:43 am Reply and quote this post
First off, who is Poseidon? Second, why did SuperXP post the exact same message that Poseidon posted?

Next, hands of to ATI for crushing NVIDIA in this round. They did a great job. :) The reason ATI has the advantage is because of the higher clock speeds. (as always, ATI has higher clock speeds than NVIDIA)

But, the 7800 Ultra is speculated to come out 3-4 months after the R520, so we will see then.


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Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:46 am Reply and quote this post
dang ATI is kicking NVIDIA's butt.
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Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:00 am Reply and quote this post
talk about a lot of crap not based on fact. 2 beat 2 7800 GTX in SLI ? haha ya right

look at the scores on forum wars they all beat even the highest scores by x1800xt pe . then scores arnt even end user .

the scores by 7800 GTX are.

You talk all the s**t you want. when end user start to bench we will see the truth.

God im going to lagh my butt off if the x1800xt pe turns out to be a compleat lie and cant compeat.

Shuld have waiting for them to be put in our hands before jumping to a guess.


Last edited by PCGEEK on Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:03 am; edited 1 time in total

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Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:08 am Reply and quote this post
here is mine with miner over clock on the GPU,s 2 7800 gt and X2 3800+ overclocked 650 MHz  

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1294945

he didnt even beet mine and his is flying apart at the seems its overclocked so high .

FX 57 @ 3.7 Ghz ? OMG wow thats crazy .

FX 57 beats X2 on FPS its a more uber gaming chip .


Last edited by PCGEEK on Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:19 am; edited 1 time in total

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Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:51 pm Reply and quote this post
I don't put much stock in theoretical tests, I'd prefer to see the X1800 beat a 7800GTX SLI in a real world test (and not Half Life 2 :P).
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Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:09 pm Reply and quote this post
I am with Myrdaal. I don't really care much for such tests either. I care about what will give me the best price/performance ratio for the games I play. In this round ATI will still dominate in D3D games, while nVidia will dominate in OpenGL games.
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