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Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:24 am Reply and quote this post
Well, first off I'm new to this place. I've been secretly browsing it for a while I just haven't had the chance to register. BUT here I am and I have a few little miniscule questions :)

When I built my rig about 2 months ago people were all telling me to get 2x512mb sticks of RAM. Something about it running faster. So I orded that initially. I shocked one of my sticks so it died a week or so later leaving me with just one 512 stick. I was thinking about RMA'ing it, but the time it would have taken was not worth the 30 dollars that I was going to loose, aka, I didn't want my PC unusable for a month. So I sucked it up and stuck with the one 512mb stick until Christmas. I recently got 2 more 512mb sticks putting me at 1.5gb.

I read in this thread:

http://cyberitforums.com/index.php?showtopic=738

That some processors lower the performace of the RAM when upgrading to 4 sticks. SO, would my AMD 64bit Athlon 3500+ Venice Core processor, lower the quality of my RAM once I get my last 512mb stick, or will I be okay?

Thanks for all the help :)

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Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:26 am Reply and quote this post
It would not lower the quality. It would lower the timings to 2T, which really isn't a problem unless you are an overclocker. As a general rule of thumb, it is better not to use 4x512MB sticks, because Athlon 64's in general have issues when using 4 sticks.
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Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:28 am Reply and quote this post
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It would not lower the quality. It would lower the timings to 2T, which really isn't a problem unless you are an overclocker. As a general rule of thumb, it is better not to use 4x512MB sticks, because Athlon 64's in general have issues when using 4 sticks.

Ugh.

So should I stick with the 1.5gigs until I can buy 2x1gb sticks?

I thought KoolDrew said something like Venice cores were fine, but the Winchester that he had in that topic wasn't :/

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Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:29 am Reply and quote this post
If the RAM is double-sided you may be forced to run a 2T command rate. However, if you really do need 2GB the advantage of having the extra RAM outweighs running at 2T.

Also, in real-world performance the performance impact won't be large.

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I thought KoolDrew said something like Venice cores were fine, but the Winchester that he had in that topic wasn't :/


Non-RevE CPU's (e.g. Winchester) were forced to run at 166Mhz @ 2T. The Venice cores can run at 200MHz, but you are still forced to run 2T.


Last edited by KoolDrew on Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:31 am; edited 1 time in total

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Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:33 am Reply and quote this post
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If the RAM is double-sided you may be forced to run a 2T command rate. However, if you really do need 2GB the advantage of having the extra RAM outweighs running at 2T.

Also, in real-world performance the performance impact won't be large.

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I thought KoolDrew said something like Venice cores were fine, but the Winchester that he had in that topic wasn't :/


Non-RevE CPU's (e.g. Winchester) were forced to run at 166Mhz @ 2T. The Venice cores can run at 200MHz, but you are still forced to run 2T.

Ah okay.

I'll probably end up getting the 2 gigs but in a year or so when you start needed 3 and 4 gigs, move the 1gig sticks.

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Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:42 am Reply and quote this post
I am planning on buying this GSkill set:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820231036

Excellent price/performance ratio. You can have 2GB for 140$, and they overclock pretty nicely.

I have one question though...when you fried your RAM, why did you not get a replacement at the store or online retailer?

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Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:43 am Reply and quote this post
Check out one reviewer's comment:

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i checked out from XS, it can run at DDR500 3-4-4-8 with 2.7v, and i get 2 of them. it actually runs to DDR520 3-4-4-8 @ 2.64v on Dfi Nf4 ultra-D
Gskill is the best!!

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Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:57 am Reply and quote this post
I have an Abit KN8 Ultra Mobo so it is perfect for that RAM.

I might think about getting it :)

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Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:59 am Reply and quote this post
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I have an Abit KN8 Ultra Mobo so it is perfect for that RAM.

I might think about getting it :)

You should. It's a great set, and it'll work well with your ABIT. And in the future, lest you be tempted to overclock, you'll have it there. ;)

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Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:03 pm Reply and quote this post
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I have an Abit KN8 Ultra Mobo so it is perfect for that RAM.

I might think about getting it :)

I would first sell off your 1.5GB of Corsair ValueSelect.

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