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Religion the Root of all evil?
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Mon May 29, 2006 9:22 am Reply and quote this post
Religion exists because of Control, A Good way of contolling people, now Imn no crank, but I its pretty obvious... Religion is the cause of all conflict.
Heres someone you should listen to...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins#Religion
In January 2006, Dawkins presented a two-part Channel 4 documentary entitled The Root of All Evil?, addressing what he sees as the malignant influence of organised religion in society.

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Mon May 29, 2006 10:06 am Reply and quote this post
I spoke in metaphorical terms, i agree, Its evolved over time to become widely accepted, and after the creation of religion, in which it was merely a concept, it has been picked up by those who want to contol people for example, in the eyes of economics, to very carefully control people's minds with very strong ideologies. It misleads people, and those people in the heirachy of religion, and in religiously linked organisations, right through to the Pope campaigning for the Africans to stop using Condoms (Contraception) which i known to massively reduce AIDs risk, the biggest African Killer.
Also, try to think of a war that hastn't been caused by religion and Difference in Ethnicity, from the Rewandan Massacre between two African Tribes, to the WW2 and the "Master race".
Also, George Bush is a creationist, amazingly and blatently corrupt, he is using Religion to Justify the Iraq War, and In a speech, so did Tony Blair, this is equally as bad as the opposing force, where they justify war with Religion too.
The bible also talks about a Just and Holy War... Now, I don't believe there ever is justification for War, but for Religion to blatently say religion is Just...

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Mon May 29, 2006 1:32 pm Reply and quote this post
Nope I don't belive religion is the root of all evil either. But now theres this thing called the davinci code witch makes me think about my christian belives a little more.
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Tue May 30, 2006 8:18 am Reply and quote this post
In what way do you mean Atomic77? What do you mean about the Da Vinci Code? Remeber it is merely fiction (its good ficition) however the story about the Holy Grail is utterly based on myth and legend and (no offence to Americans here) I love the fact that when I went to France there where hundreds of guliable American tourists lapping up this story and actually going around on 'grail' hunts. it makes me laugh.
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Wed May 31, 2006 1:25 pm Reply and quote this post
Without insulting anyone believing in any kind of faith or god. I totally agree with Sam, religion is a control of the state, and what happens when you got good control, you make money.

Religion is a business in the strangest sense, if you look at the Middle East; they fight over land and control, why I thought Christianity where non violent forgiving people.
I was brought up a catholic for years I went to church, but never had the faith, and have always believed in a more logical theory called evolution

Having studied Human biology at A level, I’ve read and studied loads of theories and spiritual creation just does not work for me, although respect other people right to believe in what they want.

Science is the way; although some people think that they can co exist.
The Da Vinci Code is just a myth and a very good read, but remember we are talking about the most read story, and when you sell lots of books you also make lots of money.

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Wed May 31, 2006 1:35 pm Reply and quote this post
The Da Vinci Code, great read, not to be taken as the americans take it, or even any hollywood film spinoff of a book  

Yeah And I full respect andy reasonable faith.

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Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:40 am Reply and quote this post
Well, firstly, I can't really say that i agree entirely on the statement. Yyou've got to remember that religion's 'image' has been tarnished in the past - it has been around for a long time - there have been many people around to abuse or misuse it.

Another thing - one's actions are determined by their beliefs. Were you to make the title of this thread: "Beliefs are the Root of all Evil", it would sound kind of silly - would a murderer murder someone if they did not believe it was 'right' or 'fun'? Obviously one must believe in what they are doing to actually do it! Religion is, in essence, a belief (usually of a god(s) and the meaning and creation of life). I don't believe in religion, as a whole, being the root of all evil - i believe that individual belief (usually extreme views - this now relates, indirectly, to my post in the 'US Propaganda in Videogames' thread) is the root of all evil. One's individual beliefs can stem from misinterpretation of a religion, or from a corrupt mind, or from corrupt teachings/influence.

Lastly, if religion has been used, as a tool, to control others, then surely the Root of All Evil must be the 'controller' - a person? Perhaps a person with individual beliefs?

N.B. - it would appear that our gaming & entertainment forum seems to be turning into a very philosophical one!

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Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:07 am Reply and quote this post
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has to come from somewhere; in this case religion. Refer to my post above. The people who created religion probably didn't have control in mind, it was probably a legitimate explanation, or maybe even a joke, but what religion has turned in to now, is what the root of evil is. It has been used to justify conflict and war, (refrence to every war? tell me a war not religiously/belief related), and to control people, as Mark says, with power comes money, and Religion undoubtedly has power over people.

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Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:43 am Reply and quote this post
Perhaps, although there are evil people without religious beliefs - e.g. Stalin, Mao etc. These people did, however, use religion (by making up their own religions) to control people e.g. the Cult of Personality used in the USSR. So, in this sense, I do agree that religion can be bad - it can be used as a tool, or a weapon.
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Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:23 pm Reply and quote this post
Its a misuse of peoples Minds, its belief and faith, which is very strong, and when you think about it, this links to our Communism debates etc.
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Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:26 am Reply and quote this post
Yes it does link very strongly to Communism - because it has been used by many political leaders to manipulate populations - which again emphasises the 'power' of religion.

100s of years ago, the Catholic church forbade the individual interpretation of the Bible (and forbade its translation). This gave rise to the Protestants, who believed in a more 'democratic' system. Nowadays, people are not restrained by the Catholic church to read the Bible, which indicates a vast improvement in the way that religion is taught and passed on.

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Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:04 pm Reply and quote this post
I'm not at all religious and I do believe that religion is the cause of most problems

I do not think religion is evil though, its just how people interpirate it

like how americans interperate the bible is evil/psycotic and the way alqueeda interpirate their book thing is evil/psycotic and insane

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Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:48 am Reply and quote this post
That is correct, you are one of the few people who understands that; It is the way peple use religion with bad intent, and how they interpret the bible and use it to control people; it's human nature, people are entitled to believe what they want, (even though religion is so influential that some people have little choice).

It is a very clever way of taking control of people, Its a misuse of peoples Minds, its belief and faith, which is very strong.

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Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:46 am Reply and quote this post
No I don't think so. Religion may ba a source of some conflicts but it's not the root of evil. Religions were made to AVOID evil but things change over the time, if you know what I mean...
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Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:26 pm Reply and quote this post
Religion is not the source of all that is evil. What Religion really is a bunch of beliefs. In this country the United States we have freedom of religion witch means we can choose what religion to follow what to belive in and if and when we go to church or not. But what is hard to understand is people that use religion as a means of harming people. Thats all I have to say about this for now.
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