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Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:28 pm Reply and quote this post
I know that my AXP 2200+ at 1.8 is capable of runnig at 50FPS (640x480 lowest).  I figure a 1.5GHz AXP could do 30.

However it is most likely a P4, in which case I would agree, it would be best not to attempt it.  Not that the installer would even let him after seeing what video card he has.

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Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:17 am Reply and quote this post
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I know that my AXP 2200+ at 1.8 is capable of runnig at 50FPS (640x480 lowest).  I figure a 1.5GHz AXP could do 30.

However it is most likely a P4, in which case I would agree, it would be best not to attempt it.  Not that the installer would even let him after seeing what video card he has.

Wha? BF2 does not support 640x480.. Are you sure that's bf2 you are running? O_o

BF2 Only supports 800x600+.

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Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:06 am Reply and quote this post
I found some bf2 screenshots, at the highest settings:

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4429/screen0045iy.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/2159/screen0055yv.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6112/screen0062oc.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/2048/screen0071vw.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/1166/screen0119jg.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/158/screen0136em.jpg

Although running the game on high, or ultra-high settings isn't a job for most. You'll need dang good hardware to run it at it's best.

Oh, and greg I would like to point out that you were infact (some what)correct about bf2 being able to *run* on a 1.5GHz CPU (I'd say 1.7, although it depends on your cpu - and not if it's just intel or amd) however You won't be able to play many people. I'd say a maximum of 8v8 (14) if you used such a speed. If you want to play 16v16 (32) or 24v24 (48)/25v25(50) then you would need (IMO) at least a 2.4GHz CPU, and for above 48 players more than 512MB RAM. Also, if you wanted to play 32v32(64) then I'd say you need a MINIMUM of 1GB RAM, and at least a 2.6GHz CPU.

I normally play in 32 player servers, sometimes 48 or 50 player servers. When I play on 16 player servers I notice a large performance increase. (I hardly ever play on 16 player servers.. it's not as fun), and when I try to play on 64 player servers the slowdown is quite bad. You also need a minimum of a 256kbps connection to handle bf2, although IIRC EA recommended 1mbps if you were playing on 64 player servers.


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Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:55 pm Reply and quote this post
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is it really stealing because its like they let u download them and it not like the makers of the game have anything to say about it ad if they do well then the site should be taken down
and i am sorry i just thought id mention it cause its a search engine

Nope, it's not.  Some people just don't understand that.  If you've already got a key for the game, there isn't a problem with you downloading it.
Technically, it's illegal, but so is selling a cd or dvd to a friend, or for that matter, selling a book.  So, I don't see how they can be going around shutting these sites down when libraries all over the US have used books sales.


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Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:15 am Reply and quote this post
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is it really stealing because its like they let u download them and it not like the makers of the game have anything to say about it ad if they do well then the site should be taken down
and i am sorry i just thought id mention it cause its a search engine

Nope, it's not.  Some people just don't understand that.  If you've already got a key for the game, there isn't a problem with you downloading it.
Technically, it's illegal, but so is selling a cd or dvd to a friend, or for that matter, selling a book.  So, I don't see how they can be going around shutting these sites down when libraries all over the US have used books sales.

But the key for the game almost always comes with the torrent.. so it's still illegal.

And also, it's illegal to even copy music in some cases. And that's what these sites do.. so they are shutdown.
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Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:11 pm Reply and quote this post
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Nope, it's not.  Some people just don't understand that.  If you've already got a key for the game, there isn't a problem with you downloading it.
Technically, it's illegal, but so is selling a cd or dvd to a friend, or for that matter, selling a book.  So, I don't see how they can be going around shutting these sites down when libraries all over the US have used books sales.

Yes this is exactly what i was trying to say and im glad you see what i mean. and Kahrn if its really a bad felony why arent all these sits taken down and shouldnt the makers of the game try to stop it or something?


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Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:22 pm Reply and quote this post
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Nope, it's not.? Some people just don't understand that.? If you've already got a key for the game, there isn't a problem with you downloading it.
Technically, it's illegal, but so is selling a cd or dvd to a friend, or for that matter, selling a book.? So, I don't see how they can be going around shutting these sites down when libraries all over the US have used books sales.

Yes this is exactly what i was trying to say and im glad you see what i mean. and Kahrn if its really a bad felony why arent all these sits taken down and shouldnt the makers of the game try to stop it or something?

First of all, sites are being taken down. But you can't just take a site down just like that. You need permissions. Alot of the time, it involves police having to raid buildings and taking away the servers, so of course you'll need warrants to do this.

Secondly, the makers of the games do not lose as much money as film producers and music producers. Music producers/Film producers DO take action to stop it. Many servers have been taken down.. Do you guys never read the news or something? Not only that, but game distributors try to take action too. And also, most of the servers that give torrents for games that are being distributed illegally and against their licenses are also on servers which give torrents and such for illegal music, video, tv and various other things.. so by taking down one server you remove all the access to those. In other words, there is nothing game distributors need to do, as it's already being delt with by MPAA

BTW: Illegal does not mean \"really bad felony\".

If  you  read the dang news, you'd know all about sites being shut down. (Yes, that's 14 different links)

Still think people are not doing anything about it? then search for yourself. I could proberbly come up with at least 100 different torrent sites that have been shutdown (I just found all those links quickly from past knowledge)


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Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:24 pm Reply and quote this post
uhhh ok you really didnt need to make a huge deal about it but i believe you and when  i said really bad felony it didnt represent \"illegal\" it meant a really bad crime and as i used it \"if its really a bad felony why arent all these sits taken down\" it was meant as was it really a bad crime, although u made clear and thanks for 14 links but i only needed one i respect you and so i believe you but i guess you were just making sure?
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