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tables and frames/iframes vs CSS and divs in Graphic Design, Web Design and Creative Arts Concepts
Tables are the best way to go --- for tabular material. The complaints tend to come because tables are stretched beyond what they were designed for. Many websites (my own included, since it predates CSS) used tables as means of positioning items on a page. And it generally works, for now. But CSS does it better, and less obtrusively in the code. Also, as CSS and < style> tags developed, some of the < table> attributes that made it work so well for page positioning have been deprecated, and along about 2 or 3 browser generations down the track will no longer be supported, meaning that those pages that haven't switched to CSS will begin to fall apart.

Another problem with tables for positioning is that they are not friendly to screen readers (for the blind) or other non-common media. For instance a table that looks fine on a normal wide screen may be impossible to read meaningfully on a cell phone because each column may have to be interpreted as a separate page.

All that said, it should still be recognized that < table>s are the best way to go for displaying data in a chart form. CSS can be worked around to emulate tables, but it's a much a kludge to do that as it ever was to use tables for formatting.
Posted by OwenKL Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:12 pm
[Game] Word Change Game in General Discussion, including Off Topic, Current Affairs
Okay, I'll take your challenge, though I think the single word limit is a bit tight. Allowing the mutating of a phrase might be better. (Also correcting a typo doesn't count.)

Quote:
Lunch Counter is an exciting and exhilarating experience with many possibilities, and it is an amazing online gaming experience.
Posted by OwenKL Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:05 pm
World's First Scented Car Tires in General Discussion, including Off Topic, Current Affairs
Well, I should think a company with a name like CumHo *ahem*, *cough* KUMHO would know something about scented rubbers *cough* rubber.

(This board need a strikethrough function)
Posted by OwenKL Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:21 pm
[Game] Pick one and pass it on in General Discussion, including Off Topic, Current Affairs
Sam England wrote:
cs_office or de_dust


cs_office


21
  or    42
Posted by OwenKL Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:00 pm
Definitions of Pwned (for those who dont know!) in Gaming
"All your base are belong to us!"
Posted by OwenKL Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:08 pm
3.8% of Web searches are for Sex... in General Discussion, including Off Topic, Current Affairs
Lucas McCartney wrote:
aww man im gonna buy a really good domain and sell it for millions. Maybe sex.co.uk

Thomas Lohse wrote:
I guess some people are very one track minded.

There's a squatter sitting on
Code:
onetrackmind.com
but
Code:
onetracmind.com  &
onetrakmind.com
are both still available.
Code:
sex.co.uk
is in use as a link hub for porn sites, but oddly enough they also include a block of links for "dinosaur movies"! I checked that out, and sure enough, it was links to places like Disney and NationalGeographic and DinosaurRobots! Who'da thunk?
Posted by OwenKL Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:55 pm
Anti-spam in iVirtua News, Views, Suggestions, and Help Centre
What's up with this plague of spam? Why aren't these threads
2905426 [SPAM]...
2905457 Sildenafil...
2905458 Who...
2905462 How...
2905463 generic...
simply eradicated, as some good threads (such as 10822 "What languages do you know?") have been? Yes, I know Sam wrote
Quote:
It is our policy to keep and edit spam, to humiliate the spammers.

but you know that that doesn't work. All they do is clutter up the forums and annoy the rest of us.
Posted by OwenKL Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:24 am
Most links on a site/most inaccessible site/worst design... in Programming, Web and Software Design/Development
Ah, but sometimes you wish to impress visitors with what a great selection you have, and how many choices you offer!    Note that in the screenshot of Cdiscount you present, the tabs are not just all equal. They are grouped by sur-tabs. I count ten sur-tabs (12 if you include the undivided Account tab and the search box), with at most 12 in each sub-group. So what you're really getting is a tree, not a simple list (like that at the bottom of that page, which is more like an index) and each uses a clear 1- or 2-word description, so that they all fit in a simple toolbar space, and still leave plenty of room for displays of featured ads.  

Now, compare that with iVirtua's home page, which has 20 items at the top (not counting the Google ads, which change in number), and then lists links to 21 fora, grouped by 7 often-overlapping sur-groups, and with both forum and group names reading entire lists of possible topics areas, and the whole thing needing to scroll at least 11 pages to see it all! The buzzword "media" shows up 19 times in 14 of those headings!  

I'd say that iVirtua could improve a lot by emulating Cdiscount's good example.  
Posted by OwenKL Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:48 am
Canadian billboard gets pedal-powered, shows off LED efficie in Hardware, Internet, Networking, Comms and Security
Go to http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=51637 for photos.

(I tried to upload them, but this editor was recalcitrant about allowing me to do so.)
Posted by OwenKL Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:53 pm
[Game] Pick one and pass it on in General Discussion, including Off Topic, Current Affairs
iLife

Shriners or Illuminati ?
Posted by OwenKL Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:27 pm
What languages do you know? in Programming, Web and Software Design/Development
Dejv wrote:
I speak Maltese, English and Italian :p

Maltese? There's a language for Maltese? I like chocolate malts.

I can't speak it, but I can type Italic. (Maybe if I try talking while leaning over...?)
Posted by OwenKL Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:21 pm
[Game] Pick one and pass it on in General Discussion, including Off Topic, Current Affairs
, fer sure!

or
Posted by OwenKL Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:59 pm
Knowledge or Bliss? in The Great Debates!
Ode on a Distant Prospect of Eton College
Thomas Gray (1716-1771)
(verse of 10 - full poem)
  To each his sufferings:  all are men,
    Condemn'd alike to groan;
  The tender for another's pain,
    Th' unfeeling for his own.
  Yet, ah!  why should they know their fate.
  Since sorrow never comes too late,
  And happiness too swiftly flies?
  Thought would destroy their paradise.
  No more;--where ignorance is bliss
    'Tis folly to be wise.
Posted by OwenKL Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:02 am
[Game] Pick one and pass it on in General Discussion, including Off Topic, Current Affairs
Nitronumber9 wrote:
yes or no?

No, sorry, I'm already overextended.

Know or Bliss?
Posted by OwenKL Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:14 pm
AVG not to be free anymore? Dispite rumours it's still free! in Microsoft / Windows
I'm still using AVG 6.1, and getting regular updates. But then, this machine is on Win98. AVG is one of several utilities (along with Adobe Reader and Flash) that keep popping up notices that I need to get newer versions -- which will not work on machines that aren't running WinME or later! Frustrating. I spend 15 minutes loading and installing an upgrade, and then it aborts. One program (PowerPoint Reader, I think it was) actually wiped out the older, still usable program first before checking and finding it couldn't work, and left me to scrounge around for hours trying to find a replacement for it!

Win98 still works fine (heck, I've still got my Win3.11 machine, and use it from time to time!), so I have no urge to spend bunches of $$$$ I don't have on yet another version. So far, about the only thing it can't do is play YouTube videos, which rescues me from scads of wasted hours!
Posted by OwenKL Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:07 pm
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