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I see all your points. For my next system, I've decided to stick with ValueRAM. But, now the question is, which one?
I've heard naught but good things about Corsair ValueSelect from all across the internet. At the same time, I did have a VS stick die on me recently and I had to RMA it. In return, I got an equivalent stick, but it seems to overheat every once in a while, a property my stick (prior to failure) did not exhibit. None of my RAM sticks have heatspreaders/sinks, though, I'm thinking of rigging in an internal RAM fan to blow on my DIMMs which will (hopefully) eventually get heatspreaders.
I note that since environmental temperatures here are dropping, however, that my \"overheating\" problem has been reduced to nil. It hasn't crashed in a month, and I'm certain it has to do with my lower room temperature. It was quite hot on the 6th floor in early September/late August.
I haven't heard much about Kingston ValueRAM... though I do have a 333 MHz DDR stick of it (256 MB :D) I could \"test\" for anyone willing to listen. :D
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And warrenty is far better then the value RAM
You mean like my lifetime replacement warranty that covered my Corsair ValueSelect stick? :D
Truth be told, I flat do not overclock, so I can't comment there. From what I've gathered, Value RAM is good for just about anything BUT overclocking... however, it is, evidently, possible as quite effectively demonstrated by the link KoolDrew provided.
KoolDrew, you have almost ALL the components which I have (DFI LanParty UT nF4-Ultra D, 3000+ Venice, 1GB Crucial Value). How much is your system overclocked? How well does the Crucial overclock?
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I don't know what the heck you guys with 2gb of ram are running, but I fail to see why you would need 2GB of ram with current software. (Maybe you could provide me with some reasons as to why you need so much RAM?)
At the moment, 2GB would offer very LITTLE performance increase over 1GB, IF ANY.
Almost everyone I know that uses 1GB of RAM says that the used amount hardly ever goes over 512MB.
If you take my advice, you would get much better performance using a fast RAM chip of 512mb or 1gb than a not so fast/average 2GB chip.. and even then the extra 1GB would be a waste, because do you really think you will use it? I doubt it..
Even with Battlefield2, on average it would only give a 4% performance increase by using 2GB of RAM over 1GB.. and if you were using faster 1GB RAM then naturally it would give a better performance.
If you want to be on the safe side of things, then go with 1gb of 400MHz DDR... as 2GB is a total waste of money.
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With games like BF2 there is a huge increase in performance going to 2GB of RAM. Of course if you were running at low settings the perrformance improvement would not be as large. There was even a thread at Anandtech about BF2 memory usage that showed how much of an improvement it made. http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.as...5&enterthread=y
MMORPG's such as WoW can also take advantage of the extra RAM. Future games will also take advantage of the extra RAM. There are also many other things that are not related to gaming that would benefit a lot.
Going with 1GB of \"performance\" RAM as opposed to 2GB of Value RAM is, well IMO, dumb.
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as 2GB is a total waste of money.
I find it funny you say this, but recommend people buy expensive RAM. Due to the integrated memory controller and the well-balanced dront-end of the K8 CPU's, they are relatively insensative to memory performance outside of synthetic benchmarks.
2GB of RAM will make a big difference in Photoshop CS2 as opposed to 512MB. Trust me, I'm on 512MB + CS2, and it does not work too well.
And opposed to 1GB Performance RAM?
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Going with 1GB of \"performance\" RAM as opposed to 2GB of Value RAM is, well IMO, dumb.
Buying a memory chip that will never get used is dumb too.
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Buying 1GB of \"performance\" RAM for the price of 2GB of value RAM would be a total waste of money.
Buying 2GB of any type of ram would normally be a waste of money too, as memory usage would hardly ever peek over 1gb. Many of the people that I know that use 2GB, have never seen a performance increase, and have never seen there RAM usage peek over 1GB. It's not about the amount of RAM you have, it's about how fast it is.
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With games like BF2 there is a huge increase in performance going to 2GB of RAM.
No, there isn't. In most computers, it isn't even an 8% performance increase, versus the 32% performance increase from 512 to 1GB.
So unless you use software with memory leaks, edit huge textures,use animation software alot, or edit large amounts of music, or serve data to thousands of clients, the chances of you ever using that second 1GB stick are very low.
Performance RAM usually helps with intense overclocking. For example, if my goal was to overclock an FX57 to 4GHz, I would not use ValueRAM, but performance RAM such as OCZ VX Gold, Ballistix Tracer, etc. But, since I'm not, ValueRAM would be much more beneficial for me.
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Before even trying to argue with me read the links I provided. Especially the BF2 thread, which even says things like:
\"1GB was hitching terribly thorought the entire round\" \"2GB ran much better,\" \"Battlefield 2 does utilize more than 1GB of memory.\" \"At current ram prices, 2GB for this and future games is a no brainer.\"
The one I bolded is exactly the point I am trying to make. If you are building a high-end gaming rig it would be really stupid not to get 2GB.
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It's not about the amount of RAM you have, it's about how fast it is.
I don't even think I have to explain why this comment is extremely dumb.
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It's not about the amount of RAM you have, it's about how fast it is.
I don't even think I have to explain why this comment is extremely dumb.
It's not extremely dumb. I agree, there are a few cases (very few) that do better with 2GB than with 1GB. But, with virtually everything, you'll see a difference between 3-3-3-8 timings and 2-2-2-5.
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My only argument for this is Photoshop. Photoshop does not really care about latencies, and in the settings, you can set the % of RAM you want Photoshop to occupy. The more RAM you have, the higher the %, the more RAM you can use for Photoshop and have less lag, etc.
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