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Should I upgrade to 4 sticks of RAM?
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:18 pm Reply and quote this post
You're right.  With photo programs, more ram is what you want.  For everything else, faster ram is what you want (if you have 1GB already).
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:32 pm Reply and quote this post
I would still disagree. My 512MB PC2100 RAM loaded C&C Generals: ZH much faster than my 256MB PC2700.

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Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:33 pm Reply and quote this post
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But, with virtually everything, you'll see a difference between 3-3-3-8 timings and 2-2-2-5.


Barely with a Pentium 4, and not very much with an Athlon64. 3-3-3-8 timings are average (gasp!) and 2-2-2-5 timings are available ONLY on 512 MB sticks (which you pay out your left nostril for).

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I don't even think I have to explain why this comment is extremely dumb.


That's okay -- I will. That comment is pretty dumb. :D

Corsair ValueSelect 2x1GB: $214
--Timings: 3-3-3-8
--Speed: 400MHz

Corsair XMS 2x1GB: $221
--Timings: 3-4-4-8
--Speed: 400 MHz

So... if I'm reading this right... the ValueSelect will BEAT the XMS at stock...? And it's cheaper?

Uhm...

The ONLY advantage I see to this so-called \"performance\" RAM is this overclocking potential... and KoolDrew seems to have overclocked ValueSelect just fine...

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Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:57 pm Reply and quote this post
My HyperX performance RAM is cheaper than the Crucial ValueSeries. Should I go for it?
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:11 pm Reply and quote this post
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My HyperX performance RAM is cheaper than the Crucial ValueSeries. Should I go for it?

Wow!

I certainly would...

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Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:18 pm Reply and quote this post
1GB HyperX: http://shop3.outpost.com/product/3746176?s...CH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

1GB Crucial Value: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820146545

Edit: Wow...look @ the price of that HyperX on Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820144114

Exact same model, just 88$ more!


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Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:25 pm Reply and quote this post
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I would still disagree. My 512MB PC2100 RAM loaded C&C Generals: ZH much faster than my 256MB PC2700.

Yeah, that's why I said if you have 1GB already.  Under 1GB, you'll see differences in size more, and over, you'll see differences in speed more.

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Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:27 pm Reply and quote this post
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Exact same model, just 88$ more!

Wow.  I guess that just shows why you have to do some searching around, and newegg isn't always the cheapeast (although I think they are most of the time)

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Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:31 am Reply and quote this post
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1GB HyperX: http://shop3.outpost.com/product/3746176?s...CH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

1GB Crucial Value: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820146545


It might not be entirely fair to go upon the 2x512MB pricing vs. 1GB. As I'm sure you know, CAS latencies are faster / more flexible on a smaller stick of the same bandwidth rate. On the same note, I believe 2 GB of 2-2-2-5 RAM on 4 PC3200 512MB sticks would give you better performance than 2 GB of 3-3-3-8 RAM on 2 1GB sticks.

..Whee.

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Yeah, that's why I said if you have 1GB already. Under 1GB, you'll see differences in size more, and over, you'll see differences in speed more.


Definitely. Though, I imagine over 1 GB you won't \"see\" differences in speed more, you'll just be able to benchmark higher. Above 1 GB of RAM isn't much of a huge performance boost, but it does help. 2 GB of RAM is about the peak amount of RAM you'll want per CPU. Anything more, and the CPU wastes time looking through too much RAM, and your performance, as a result, will take a hit.

Also, I believe 4x512 MB sticks of RAM with equal speed and equal latencies will have slightly lower performance to 2x1GB sticks. I believe also that 3 GB of RAM is, perhaps, a bit too much for a single processor. While you'll get gains in some areas (Premeire, Photoshop, 3D Studio Mzx) you won't see too much elsewhere. I've tried 3 GB in my computer, and I got shafted about 200 MB/sec on data transfer rate.

...it was nuts. But I still had 3 GB of RAM. :D


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Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:07 am Reply and quote this post
I was going to have a long reply, but I see A_Pickle already covered what I was going to say. All I am going to say is read my fricken posts! I even posted links to two topics that showed A64's are insensative to memory performance outside of \"benchmarks.\" In real-world performance the difference between \"value\" and \"performance\" RAM would not be noticable at all.

Before even continuing to argue with anybody read the information that they have provided. Most of what some of you are saying was already disporoved in the links I provided.

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On the same note, I believe 2 GB of 2-2-2-5 RAM on 4 PC3200 512MB sticks would give you better performance than 2 GB of 3-3-3-8 RAM on 2 1GB sticks.


With Rev. E A64's running 4 double-sided sticks would force you to run at 2T. I also think it is best not to use all the slots you have available. With two l;ft you have room for expansion in the future.

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