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Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:59 am Reply and quote this post
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I'm not siding with either one.  I remember when VHS beat out BetaMax as the standard format for VCRs.  BetaMax was essentially a higher quality, but cost efficient consumers ultimately sided with VHS.  Interesting to see which way this goes, especially in the wake of withdrawal for support for Sony's MiniDisc format (for PSP).

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Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:34 am Reply and quote this post
I kind of hope (and believe) that HD-DVD will win.  People know what HD is.  People know what DVD's are.  HD-DVD is an HD DVD... duh.  Blue ray on the other hand... just sounds stupid.

I like that Blue-ray holds more, but being incompatable with current DVD standards is a huge disadvantage.  Then you would have to have a DVD player AND a Blue-ray player.

Another benefit of HD-DVD is that the disks can be made with the same machines that are in use for DVD's and CD's.  Not only that, but because the storage medium is sandwiched between plastic, they can be made to be dual-sided like some DVDs today.  Blue-ray cannot do that because the medium has to be on the top of the plastic (from what I heard... Don't take it as SOLID fact, but I'm pretty sure).

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Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:49 am Reply and quote this post
I can agree with you there, but I'm still not going to take any certain side, stranger things have happened and it all depends on what the masses will embrace as the new standard.

Why would we, as end-consumers, want to go out and buy another machine just to play Blue-Ray discs?  Ultimately, I think HD-DVD will win out, but that's just my own personal opinion.  Bah, I guess it sounds like I'm going with HD-DVD anyway as much as I say I'm not one-sided.

Its hard for anything proprietary to stand the test of time.  Lets see how Sony goes about this.

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Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:45 pm Reply and quote this post
But blu-ray has a good chance of winning as sony is supporting it and they have the largest library of feature length films in the world.
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:44 pm Reply and quote this post
Yeah, I see that they threw all of their power behind the Mini-Disc movies as well.  

How many people have jumped off of that bandwagon now?

I think HD-DVD is going to be the standard.  Who is going to want to go out and shell out big bucks for a separate Blu-Ray disc player?

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Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:09 am Reply and quote this post
Another bit about HD-DVD and Blue-Ray
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Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:42 am Reply and quote this post
I do think that HD-DVD will prevail, and I hope it does.  M$ isn't backing Blu-ray because of too much security on them.  And if Microsoft thinks there's too much, you can only imagine how much there is on them.  :D
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Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:08 am Reply and quote this post
HD-DVD better win. Blu-Ray is DRM death, where HD-DVD is just a tiny bit more secure DVD. Hey, I've got nothing against protecting against piracy. We all probably do a bit of it, but it's against the law, and it steals from artists. So with that thought, I don't have a problem with piracy preventative measures. What I do have a problem with, is consumer preventative measures, which is just about what Blu-Ray has in store for us (should it succeed).

The fact of the matter is, Blu-Ray is invasive. If a hacker were to break the DRM on his Blu-Ray drive, Sony could deactivate it and/or zap it to reinstall an unbroken piece of DRM. The DRM prevents people from making copies and if that isn't enough, from playing copies. Between Blu-Ray and the PlayStation 3, I am eagerly awaiting the moment that Sony gets its well-deserved comeuppance.

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Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:34 am Reply and quote this post
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We all probably do a bit of it, but it's against the law, and it steals from artists.
True, but more so it steals from the big corporations.  I'd be willing to bet that there'd still be a problem if you just paid the artist $1 for downloading a cd (which is already more then they get).

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Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:57 pm Reply and quote this post
That's true. There are a lot of artists who encourage piracy, but to be honest... I don't see how it's any more \"right\" stealing from the big corporations. Artists wouldn't be who they are without the part played by some of these large media conglomerates. Without these, they really wouldn't have the level of distribution that some of them enjoy.

Of course, some media companies take it a little too far, and care about the money and the money alone... and that justifies suing dead people and middle-class American families for $14 million dollars.

*sigh*

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Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:16 pm Reply and quote this post
I agree that the artists wouldn't be much without the companies.  But, most companies have gone to the point of which you described.  Way too far.
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:07 am Reply and quote this post
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I agree that the artists wouldn't be much without the companies.


To be fair, without large distribution companies, artists would never have their music heard by people an ocean away. It would take a large group of very selfless people to accomplish the same thing... and... well... while that's nice and dandy... it isn't very plausible.

And let's face it, why should artists get to distribute their media freely? I don't have a problem with media companies. They help artists get recognition an ocean away. But that's what they ought to keep doing, rather than also trying to infringe on consumer rights.

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Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:49 pm Reply and quote this post
I agree, though I do think that artists should get more for the songs that they make.
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:56 pm Reply and quote this post
I hope HD DVD wins. One reason being, Blu- Ray sounds stupid. Plus, I wouldn't want them mixed in with my DVDs lol. I guess I'm a bit OCD about that stuff.
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:37 pm Reply and quote this post
I say HD-DVD.

People know DVD & have bought so many DVD's to date, so it is a trusted brand. This is one reason why DVD w/ the HD in front of it would be comfortable to people.

Plus I hear that HD-DVD players are fully compatible in playing DVD's but the Blu-Ray is not DVD compatible, well for now that is?

Also, I can't remember which website my friend was talking about, but for video quality the HD-DVD got 4 out of 5 where as the Blu-Ray got 2.5 out of 5. Using the same HD TV.

I'll ask & post the info when I get it from my friend.

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