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Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:43 am Reply and quote this post
A somewhat misleading title perhaps. A lot of 'modern art' atm I think, is an absolute joke.
THe TUrner prize, for me, just represents that aspect of 'art'
A pile of bananas in trafalgar square? Cans of a man's excrement? Three cola bottles? What is art coming to when a photo of a man covered in flies represents "the evil thoughts we  must all endure, and all must brush away, one by one."
Don't think me a closed minded art cynic: I'm an artist myself. Please tell me that there are some peopl out there who agree that art sceptics  have created an air of emporer's new clothes-syndrome by writing such a crock.

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Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:49 am Reply and quote this post
Well, I always thought of this as how can a light turning on and off in a room be art, and how can it win the turner prize. I now realise that was a very closed view of things. I asked myself, what is art? Art makes you think, and thats exactly what that piece of art made you do. It made you think. Over the past year or two, its become more clear to me what Art does in its purpose. It depicts the state of humanity, and it does it well. Just think.

On a more literal scale, all art is very important. Remember the Honda advert? I saw an installation at my local art gallery, it was "The Way Things Go" (1987), and that's where the idea for that advert came from.
So the "Cog" advert by Honda, which involves all the parts of a Honda car rolling about and hitting each other to make a chain reaction, is based on this. A fine artists idea, (fine artists have all the ideas), and refined or implemented to make an advertisement.

It's on the IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094300/

Advertisers and Graphic Designers would be nowhere without the fine artists who have all the ideas. Graphic Designers and Advertising agencies work with fine artist's ideas; the fine artist thinks and provides the raw concept, and the graphic designer or advertising agency will work with,, adapt and "clean" that idea to make it sell a product. Simple

Thats why I think tyhe turner prise is very importent; not just to make you think, but on a more literal scale too. It is art; and anyone who says it isn't just needs to think.

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Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:05 am Reply and quote this post
I understand what you mean, but I define art as the product of thought, and inspiration something that makes us think. Whilst a light turning on and off in a room may be inspiring, I still don't believe it's the product of enough thought ot be classed as art. It's as though it's stopped off halfway along the line.
I guess what I'm sayign is that it's all to easy. On the spot: here and now, my turner prize nominated piece of art: A pile of chewing gun, chewed by a thousand immigrants placed in front of Buckingham palace, named "Chewed up and spat out: immigration in today's society"

There, that's enough to make people think, and it took my a couple of seconds. But does it deserve to be a nominee for the turner prize? I think not.

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Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:39 pm Reply and quote this post
For anybody who doesn't know

Tate Britain | Turner Prize
The Turner Prize is a contemporary art award that always provokes debate and is widely recognised as one of the most important and prestigious awards for the visual arts in Europe

www.tate.org.uk/britain/turnerprize/

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The Prize is usually held at Tate Britain but this year, to celebrate the Capital of Culture, the Turner Prize 2007 exhibition is being shown at Tate Liverpool. A major retrospective presenting works by all the past winning artists, including Damien Hirst, Anish Kapoor and Gilbert & George, will be held at Tate Britain at the same time. Try and get to see both if you can so you can keep up to date with this year’s artists as well as finding out more about the Prize’s illustrious past.


19 October 2007 – 13 January 2008
Tate Liverpool

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  • Critic Richard Cork said, "there will never be a substitute for approaching new art with an open mind, unencumbered by rancid clichés. As long as the Turner Prize facilitates such engagement, the buzz surrounding it will remain a minor distraction.
  • In 2006 newspaper columnist Janet Street-Porter condemned the Stuckists' "feeble knee-jerk reaction" to the prize and said, "The Turner Prize and Becks Futures both entice thousands of young people into art galleries for the first time every year. They fulfil a valuable role".
"The Turner Prize: Everyone's a winner" Tate Magazine (2002) on the Tate web site.

Street-Porter, Janet (2006)"Paul is better off without Heather" The Independent online

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