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Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:03 am Reply and quote this post
A_pickle wrote:
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1.) This is not going "well," you're an idiot and kind of a sicko to even think that.
2.) No one is "with" you. You can barely type, and you have yet to present any reasonable arguments. You just hate.

to mr. A-Pickle
Enjoy ur after US army life.
Do u know armies of USA dont know what r they doing?
They just enjoy to Kill Civilians not the Enemy army!!!!!
Cause they know how to handle enemy armies!!

and every man of this world is syco not only me!!

Enjoy with ur great military(after) life officer!!
: SIR! YES!! SIR!!!

to USA:
u have great soldiers. they can only take some drinks, play with girls(r they really girls?) and kill people!!
USA killed so many innocent peoples in IRAQ why?
cause USA have nothing with them!!!
All this war happened by USA to catch SADDAM!!
i dont know why this peoples had done with USA??

all these countries of UN just fear USA cause they have so called nuclear
weapons!!!!
USA have the Area 51(lol) with some hole!!!
Their best weapon is they hat the world because they think They r the best!!
SO USA ENJOY UR GREAT LIFE!!

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Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:24 pm Reply and quote this post
I hate American's not all for another reason work at comcast support center you will know what i mean
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Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:31 pm Reply and quote this post
It seems to me that the vast majority of people who "hate" the US have never been there.
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Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:41 pm Reply and quote this post
turck_mm wrote:
It seems to me that the vast majority of people who "hate" the US have never been there.

u r a USA citizen?
ok describe USA!!
why u like it??

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Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:34 pm Reply and quote this post
Yes, I was born in the US and I currently live there, although I have traveled to Canada and France.

I like it for the simple reason that I'm used to living here. I don't live in a big city, which is also nice too. The town I live in is just a small country farming town,  but don't get me wrong-- I'm no farmer!

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Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:17 pm Reply and quote this post
I don't "hate" USA, and I've been there twice.
But I must admit that the war in Iraq was stupid, very stupid. I hope that it will reflect, and people in USA go thinking about it, and choose someone else than Bush OR make Bush clear that they're against the war. Bush is just throwing away money and people, currently ...

But further, USA has some very beautifull places which everyone should visit at least once

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Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:45 pm Reply and quote this post
u all hate the U.S. because u only hear about our politicians who are all corrupt
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Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:31 am Reply and quote this post
A minor suggestion....  There are many concepts called "the United States."  

1.  The Executive, which, currently, has removed itself from the grasp of the people.  Please do not equate the US with the current executive branch.  It has not represented the people in almost seven years, but, because of the electorial process established by their constitution, they can not get rid of the current executive branch until January, 2009.

2.  The Legislative, although more recently becoming responsive to the population, is under the control of those with money, a minute minority, but politically powerful.

3.  The environment, which actually has shown considerable improvement in many areas, but, under the current executive, has again started to decay.

4.  The people, a grouping that can be subdivided into dozens of groups, each grasping at their own ideology with total disreguard for anything except the current buzz-word focus.  The United States is certainly not united.


5.  The ideology, which was originally stated in the Declaration of Independance, the Constitution, and in many other documents.  Today, though, both the government and the people have mentally rewritten these documents, interpreting them to suit their own beliefs.

Thus, do not hate the United States, pity those who live there.

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Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:39 pm Reply and quote this post
What in the world is this thread doing on this site?
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:13 am Reply and quote this post
hahhahah !! because the world hats this destructive USA!!
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:04 am Reply and quote this post
First of all I realise this disscustion is heated but please read the community rules and respect each other.

Last edited by William Tildesley on Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:09 pm; edited 1 time in total

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Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:39 pm Reply and quote this post
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Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:14 pm Reply and quote this post
Let me put it this way you can't hate a country just because you disagree with that countries policies - which are incidentally created by that countries government not the people - although countries such as the USA and UK say we are democratic in the end the government still makes up it's own mind on it policies and who ever said that governments weren't corrupt.  But that is an entirely different subject altogether.

I include myself in the millions of people (American citizens included) who are dissatisfied with the current government and the president (George W. Bush Jr).  Personally I cant wait until he steps down from power - why? because I feel his policies are disgraceful especially those of trying to become the worlds police force.

But far from the fact do I hate the United States of America and it's people.  In fact I have many close friends presiding in the United States.

Sa_Rocky I can understand from your view point why you 'hate' the United States of America,  I can see what the United States and other western countries (including my own country (UK)) have done in the middle east.

My personal belief is that we we're right to invade Iraq and take down the dictator Saddam Hussein - however I don't believe that we went about it in the right way and that the US government and my own government lied so they could invade faster.  However both the US, UK and the other countries currently in Iraq have a duty to make that country stable.  We have paid the price of invading that country, combining US, UK and foreign countries troops we have lost thousands of men and women in combat fighting against the insurgents.

Regarding your comments about the US military you may be surprised to learn that the USA has one of the best militaries.  It is ashame though that many view the US's military as stupid arrogant and bullish - this is probably due to their image of hurting  and killing civilians and so called 'friendly-fire' - I am in no means supporting the US's militaries actions in those circumstances but no one really knows what is going through their minds when those things occur.  Another thing to point out is that those men/women are tired low on moral and all they really want to do is go back home.  They are also continuously under attacks by insurgents (or 'terrorist's') who bombard them day and night.

Sa_Rocky:
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u have great soldiers. they can only take some drinks, play with girls(r they really girls?) and kill people!!


I'm not sure where you got this information from - you do have to remember generally when in the military (any) you do kill people.

Sa_Rocky:
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USA killed so many innocent peoples in IRAQ why?


Read my comments above - again I do not consent to the US and other militaries killing innocent lives in Iraq.

Sa_Rocky:
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all these countries of UN just fear USA cause they have so called nuclear
weapons!!!!


I have to agree with you on this point - many countries do fear the United States due to it's arsenal of nuclear weapons - to be honest the whole world would be a lot better without Weapons of Mass Destruction - but remember most countries have nuclear weapons - but I believe the US has the most.

Anyway that's all that I have to say about the USA - Sa_Rocky I'd be more than happy to answer any of your questions.

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Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:11 am Reply and quote this post
ya willium you are close right.Actually i love to be in America because i like the Arizona, rocky mountain, ceder grove, and mostly its peoples living. and i would like to drive here. but the bothering is its cia,fbi and its army construction. and obviously its  administration.

and i hate those bastards who killed peoples like JF kenedy, Innocents of many country. i am a member of you tube also. here i got some crazy Americans who like this things. and they hate Muslims[it has no sense]. and some resist. once on a chat room they yelled against muslims. why i dont know. and i also hate some muslim people who are with war. the POV is
I HATE THOSE WHOSE ARE AGAINST PEACE IN THIS WORLD AND FEARING PEOPLES.

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Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:48 pm Reply and quote this post
William Tildesley wrote:

I'm not surewhere you got this information from - you do have to remember generallywhen in the military (any) you do kill people.





That's the point. You don't get the information, unless there is a mistake. Remember the iraqi prisoner abuse? Nobody would have ever known about that unless those digital images were sent internally and never meant to see the front pages of newspapers. Nothing came of that and it still goes on. The objective on any state militory is never to kill innocent people either.

The US media are hardly going to report on abuse of prisoners in it's captivity.



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I have to agree with you on this point - many countries do fear theUnited States due to it's arsenal of nuclear weapons - to be honest thewhole world would be a lot better without Weapons of Mass Destruction -but remember most countries have nuclear weapons - but I believe the UShas the most.


Most countries are not even allowed nuclear weapons, after the cold war. It depends how you class nuclear weapons, nucelar bombs, dirty bombs, or nuclear warheads for ballistic missiles. The UK has its trident missiles which successed bluestreak, and  the USA its own worldwide missle silos... on the doorstep of russia for instance. One country cannot simple rid themselves of nuclear weapons - it will only happen if every country does, and it probably will never happen.

The USA itseld only because a superpower after the USA, it is no long standing superpower with an imperial history like the UK for instance.



Besides, there are two things you can hate about "USA".

The country, its administration and politics, corruption, media, education system, government, policies, values as discussed here, or it's "people" as such discussed here and elsewhere, though that turns from politics to stereotyping - though as sa_rocky said, people like those on youtube, it could be argued are a result of their corrupt education system, government, polices and administration - though none of that is neccessarily my personal view.

There is plentry of dicussion here...


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