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Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:47 pm Reply and quote this post
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I feel that newer games like Dungeon Siege 2 will benefit a little more with a 1MB L2 cache, but that is only for AMD CPU's, seeing that Intel CPU's work different & use the cache differently.

AMD's and Intel's cache is used differently?  I thought for both of them it is used just like ram, but much, much faster.

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Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:59 pm Reply and quote this post
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I feel that newer games like Dungeon Siege 2 will benefit a little more with a 1MB L2 cache, but that is only for AMD CPU's, seeing that Intel CPU's work different & use the cache differently.

AMD's and Intel's cache is used differently?  I thought for both of them it is used just like ram, but much, much faster.

Intel processors use it differently. The Prescotts have 2MB L2 cache vs. AMD's San Diego 1MB L2 cache.

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Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:10 pm Reply and quote this post
I know they have different amounts, but how are they used differently?
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Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:59 pm Reply and quote this post
Not sure exactly how it works, but the Intel CPU's need more cache because they are otherwise inefficient in their methods of working.
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:52 am Reply and quote this post
Intels CPU cache is controled by the mother board FSB

AMD 64 cache is controled by there on board memory controler and HTT

HTT is basicly a bandwidth for cache and memory

Higher the HTT higher the cache and memory speed and bandwidth

Intel however is locked and there cache bandwidth and speed can not change.

thats how they are difrent.

Intel thinks that adding 2 MB will make up for this.


IT DOESNT.

AMD 64 beats Intel in almost every test.

Math is about the only test Intel comes out on top. There HT is the reason there.

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Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:01 am Reply and quote this post
Ok.  So, Intel's cache just basically runs slower.
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:47 am Reply and quote this post
well yes. but its there FSB interface that locks it down.
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:29 pm Reply and quote this post
Yep, got it. :)
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:59 pm Reply and quote this post
Been hearing alot of good things on the Venice core chips. I'm planning on upgrading in the next few months from my 754 setup to a 939 or 940.

I will be browsing the forums to see what the other members have to say about the san diego and venice core cpu's.

Great site guys, love!


Jay

BTW - I challenge all the members here to help make this site 100 times better than HWA.......

http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/


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Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:18 pm Reply and quote this post
Go with Socket 939, not 940.
Hey, I don't think that's a good goal.  Let's not try to be better than other forums, but just be as good as we can be.
Wait a sec, you aren't OCGW, are you? :guh:


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Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:24 pm Reply and quote this post
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Go with Socket 939, not 940.
Hey, I don't think that's a good goal.  Let's not try to be better than other forums, but just be as good as we can be.
Wait a sec, you aren't OCGW, are you? :guh:

No, he is not OCGW. OCGW has his own user account here:

http://cyberitforums.com/index.php?showuser=19

Jay, in order to do that, we need more members here in the first place. :P

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Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:59 am Reply and quote this post
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Go with Socket 939, not 940.
Hey, I don't think that's a good goal.  Let's not try to be better than other forums, but just be as good as we can be.
Wait a sec, you aren't OCGW, are you? :guh:

No, he is not OCGW. OCGW has his own user account here:

http://cyberitforums.com/index.php?showuser=19

Oh, ok.

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Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:04 pm Reply and quote this post
The increased cache on the Prescott-2 cores (6xx series) is there to compensate for the longer pipeline depth compared to Northwood (about 10 additional stages) and there is very little performance gain.

CPUs with larger L2 caches tend to do very well when using 64-bit registers, however.


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Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:11 pm Reply and quote this post
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CPUs with larger L2 caches tend to do very well when using 64-bit registers, however.

That would make sense.


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