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Sun May 14, 2006 7:40 am Reply and quote this post
Good article in the Guardian on Saturday.

It was about the bloke in the 70's who owned Warner Bros and went a bit nuts. He decided to invest millions into bringing footy to the US of A.

He took control of a tiny club called New York Cosmos and lured in some of the best footballers in the world- Pele, Beckenbauer, Carlos Alberto. The club started getting crowds of 70,000. The North American league developed around the Cosmos. Games started to get shown live on telly etc.

It looked like America was finally going to embrace the beautiful game.

But then Steve got sidetracked. Videogames were becoming popular. So he bought Atari, paid millions for the licence to ET and created one of the most disasterous flops in games history. After fucking up things at Atari he couldn't afford to keep pumping money into the New York Cosmos and the club and league slowly collapsed.

So if he'd stayed away from video games football would have gone on to become become a mainstream US sport. It would have ended the cultural isolation of America and made all the thick redneck fuckers into decent croissant eating, football loving Europeans.

With the decline of American style ass-whooping, gung-ho, militaristic shite football- Reagan would never have been elected and the country would not have started invading countries. So video games caused the Iraq War. That's a fact.

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Mon May 29, 2006 2:48 am Reply and quote this post
Which Iraq war? wasnt the first one started by Iraq invading Kuwait?
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Mon May 29, 2006 7:14 am Reply and quote this post
I think it refers to the Second Iraq War, either caused by Greed or Videogames   Don't take it too seriously  
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Mon May 29, 2006 8:27 am Reply and quote this post
Yeah, and those damn brits should've stayed home hundreds of years ago as well. Damn them, damn them to heeeell.

Also, footie barely endorses common sense, as our lovely British hooligans have shown.

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Mon May 29, 2006 10:10 am Reply and quote this post
What war are we referring to now? British Empire? Colonisation? i know, that was the entire cause of all conflict in the Middle East, i have to agree, and to put the icing on the cake, rename India's capital City from Mumbai to Bombay, something we can prononce!! To be honest, i think america are just Stirring up more trouble and being greedy... Oil, Glorious Oil!
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Mon May 29, 2006 1:34 pm Reply and quote this post
Jim9137 wrote:
Yeah, and those damn brits should've stayed home hundreds of years ago as well. Damn them, damn them to heeeell.

Also, footie barely endorses common sense, as our lovely British hooligans have shown.


Please don't tar us all under the same label "and those damn brits"as you quoted ,it was something that happened a long time ago.
I too dislike our football hooligans, but that is only an obscure percentage of football supporters, I take it you have no hooligans, bent politicians, murderers, rapists, major criminals, drug dealers, of any sort in your society and beloved country.

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Mon May 29, 2006 2:18 pm Reply and quote this post
I belive this could be true you never really truely know though. I read somewhere that flight simulator games help the terrorists learn how to fly and run there missions to cause harm to people all over the world. Darn what will they come up with next?
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Tue May 30, 2006 6:08 am Reply and quote this post
why bother with flight simulators?? they can just take lessons in the US!

I'm not saiying that i am disagreeing with Jim's statement that the Brits caused trouble (they did have a hand in it), but the major cause for unrest in the Middle East was WW2 (where the Brits were defending the M. East) and the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan and oppression of teh islamic states.

BTW, the capital of India is New Delhi

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Tue May 30, 2006 11:08 am Reply and quote this post
My country is boring. Anything major, like a rape, gets to the national news in the frontpage, pretty easily. Our politics is just useless tussle and bending over to EU, so there is not much point about arguing with politicians.

And yes, my post's point was that it's pretty far-fetched to claim that without football/soccer Iraq war wouldn't have happened. Well, if brits wouldn't have colonized the damn land, there would be no british-americans to invade the damn country.

And anyway, I think we all should just stick to ping pong.

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Tue May 30, 2006 12:24 pm Reply and quote this post
I think it was the Spanish, Portuguese, some French in the Colonial period too? Britian has a very varied history, I mean, our people make up the USA, but hang on, what's Finland famous?
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Tue May 30, 2006 3:33 pm Reply and quote this post
Well, to be honest, I'm not very well versed in the history of America.

We were the Sweden's backyard, then we became Russia's hunting grounds, before joining Fascist Germany as brothers-in-arm, then we became the hallmark of Finlandinalisation in Cold war, we became one of the leading countries in IT and high-tech, and now we won the Eurovision with our monster band, Lordi.

We also have sauna, salmiakki, vodka, tar, wife carrying, swamp football, ice cold water dipping, and other assorted things.

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Tue May 30, 2006 4:07 pm Reply and quote this post
The Eurovision song contest? Im sure Mark (800fsgbang) and Will (applet) will agree with me, but, I'm not saying anything     Nobody takes it seriously however, apart from the eastern Block.


Where were Microsoft, Apple, Sony, IBM, iVirtua, Cisco, Google, Yahoo, Intel, AMD, Adobe, Macromedia, Nintendo forunded? Finland? I think not.

And all the rest? It seems Finaland is a mere sidekick, and usually for the wrong site, (gullable? or weak?).  

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We also have sauna, salmiakki, vodka, tar, wife carrying, swamp football, ice cold water dipping, and other assorted things.

All the indications of a sucessful country  

Semantic Field for Finland? See above. No offence

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Tue May 30, 2006 4:13 pm Reply and quote this post
I take it you weren't watching it then.

Yeah, Finland has that funny thing of being the little pesky nation in the fringes of great powers, ie Russia and Sweden, Russia and America. Most of the happenings in our history were last resorts, such as the alliance with Germany to get our (sordid state) army up to date and competent against Russia, in order to gain back our lost lands. Which we did, but got cocky and went a bit further to get our asses kicked. Not because we did poorly though, mainly because our army was tiny compared to the Soviets.

As for IT, we have Linux, Nokia, F-Prot, very competent (and respected) engineers and IT specialists. So much that they're trying to lower the amount of people churning out from the endless bowels of our education. Just having big names doesn't necessarily mean everything, and most of those names you mentioned were founded in the 60's-80's, in the pinnacles of IT of the time.

And well, Finland is well, Finland. We just hang around in the Scandinavia with our goo' ol' buddies and drink our vodka while gnawing on rye, for that is the way of things and we are more than content in insulting our politicians.

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Tue May 30, 2006 4:44 pm Reply and quote this post
You can't have Linux, there are several Linux Producers!! And it doesnt matter when they were produced, in this case, it's where. Sureley those big companies can only survive and prosper with stable countries with solid economies and demand, and support for the industy.

I don't think it was to do with the armies, I mean...
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but got cocky, and went a bit further to get our asses kicked


Sums it all up, Well, I guess I can give you merit for admitting it, all I can say that, without stereotyping you, you are Cocky and Scandanavian. Lets hope we can get along now weve identified that.  

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Tue May 30, 2006 11:38 pm Reply and quote this post
I presume getting Cocky is universal problem, and not related to Scandinavia. Except in Sweden, but those guys are nuts anyhow.
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