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Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:22 pm Reply and quote this post
I would like some help on frames for website creation. If you can help me out. take a look here. http://bored.ca.tf and I would like to have frames, as I with my understanding they work better than tables. Thanks to anyone who helps!!!
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:48 pm Reply and quote this post
I would help you but ive got too much on my plate at the moment with my own company projects and website.
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:14 pm Reply and quote this post
My advice, and the same advice that any good web designer would give...
NEVER use Frames, ever, ever, they are the worst thing ever, you just need to look around the net, dont use them.
Tables are old too, I's say use CSS.... If you are not comfortable coding CSS, use dreamweaver CSS, or even better, diwnload the free beta Microsoft CSS, WYSIWG CSS! Amazing, and simple CSS design, no tables and frames... Thats how www.iVirtua.co.uk is designed.

Take a look here: http://www.microsoft.com/products/exp...d_free_trial.aspx

Download it right now... here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/de...&Hash=SBQLL3G

I repeat, no frames or tables, go for CSS, the future of web design, and amazingly clean code... you could even experimant with soem CSS templates in expression program... anything but frames or even tables.Tables are even simpler than frames may I say!

I can help with CSS, and I (could) with frames or tables but I wont I will help with CSS

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Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:24 pm Reply and quote this post
Frames most possibly IS the worst possible thing you could use. It's especially problemous if the page loads incorrectly as you get mmultiple errors rather then your basic one.

although HTML tables are outdated that still "work". i still use them, CSS is the way into the future so if you don't know HTML tables now you might as well go to CSS, it's quite simple and makes things look nice

Contributed by Noobarmy, Editorial, Marketing & Services Team
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:47 pm Reply and quote this post
Frames are just wrong, and have no use with CSS and tables around, tables for layout, well they were never meant for layout, CSS is great so get in to that, it is pretty well supported by all the latest browsers.
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:10 pm Reply and quote this post
i will try the free microsoft one you gave me the link to Sam, thanks!
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:35 pm Reply and quote this post
I don't really know anything about web design but I still think that alot of sites still have frames. Not that it really matters I guess. I think the site sims2.com uses frames.
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:28 pm Reply and quote this post
The Maxis sites use CSS (which can appear like frames), very few sites use frames now as it stops google indexing for a start, some older sites do... some examples of frames can include those network bars you get, and when you look at a google image result in its context, other than that, it is all CSS and Spans/Divs now.
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:10 pm Reply and quote this post
Oh ok I didn't know that.
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