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Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:28 pm Reply and quote this post
You'll find this quite interesting if you haven't viewed it yet:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...&q=Loose+Change

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Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:31 pm Reply and quote this post
Ya, I downloaded the DVD rip.  Some interesting points, but a lot of it is BS.
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Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:25 pm Reply and quote this post
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main check this one out too
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Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:36 am Reply and quote this post
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Ya, I downloaded the DVD rip.  Some interesting points, but a lot of it is BS.

How can it be BS?

Don't quite get why the developers of the video would lie like that... Seemed to be cold hard facts to me.


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Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:41 am Reply and quote this post
It is BS for Conservatives only.
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Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:14 am Reply and quote this post
The 'bomb' on the underside of the plane?  That has been proven to just be a shadow that is there on all of thoses planes with similar lighting.

Also, everyone says 'It sounded just like a missile.'  HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE HEARD A MISSILE FLYING OVER THEIR HEADS?!

I won't deny that the government has the power and resources to do it, and that it may have been done, but I don't see any major way that it benifited them.  Especially not a the cost of thousands of lives.

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Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:40 am Reply and quote this post
My point is that the government was lying that there were no signs/warnings of 9/11 before. I am not referring to the bombs on the underside of the airplane, etc.
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Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:42 am Reply and quote this post
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Also, everyone says 'It sounded just like a missile.' HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE HEARD A MISSILE FLYING OVER THEIR HEADS?!


*Raises hand* Ooh! Me me!

Anyway, who knows what the truth is?  There will always be conspiracy theories as long as there are governments.  I will admit though, sometimes governments do some shady things.  I wouldn't put it past any government to do anything.  Just because it doesn't seem to the public to have any benefits, that doesn't mean there aren't any in the politicians eyes.  No one saw the benefits to the Iran Contra affair either, but we had our hand in the cookie jar. Or maybe the Bay of Pigs screwup.  Watergate?  Come on, allegations are everywhere.

Basically, the problem lies in the fundamentals of our society.  We're a capitalist society, but capitalism breeds greed.  If you have a greedy power player at the helm, who knows what can happen?  I'm not accusing any Pres of doing anything like this though.  It doesn't take the Pres's signature for something like that to go down.

Oh, and yeah, I believe there were warnings beforehand as well.  I don't believe in coincidence due to the nature of my job.  That whole day is nothing but coincidences.


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Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:46 pm Reply and quote this post
Just wondering... How many of you actually watched the entire video?

I'm convinced 100% that this was all the governments doing.

The facts are there.

Like the video claims, all the government needs to do is release one of those gas station videos and we will all know the truth to what happened at the Pentagon. But instead they took the videos from the gas station and never released a shred of evidence.


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Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:12 pm Reply and quote this post
Strain, the facts may be there, but in the end, it's only circumstantial evidence, if that.  There is no hardcore proof.  Some may say that all of that is proof, but come on, what Gov't do you know that would just readily admit to it?  With such a tremendous amount of power at their disposal, NOTHING is beyond the gov't, and I mean absolutely nothing.  All they have to do is deny all of that and there you go.  Most citizens are ok with believing whatever the Gov says just as long as they feel like they have that nice warm security blanket over them.

The proverbial \"wool over the sheep's eyes\".

But again, like I said, who knows?  There are still secrets from WWII that we don't know about and I'm pretty sure we never will.  Tremble at the might of the Gov't, because big brother is always watching.

:)

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Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:36 pm Reply and quote this post
I did watch the whole thing.

Area 51 is a very interesting place to me.  I want to know what the hell their doing there.

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Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:04 pm Reply and quote this post
According to unclassified records, they're researching and developing different aerial technologies.  Lockheed Martin Co. has been developing 'secret' technology there since the late 50's.  The F-117 Stealth Fighter, the B-2 Stealth bomber, the SR-71 Blackbird high altitude recon jet, the U-2 Recon jet and most recently, the YF-22 Air Superiority Fighter (now designated F-22 Multi-roll Raptor Fighter).

Now, as for what they're doing besides aerial technology research and development?  

Anyone's guess.  Feel free to speculate.


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