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topic cleaned ? haha you guys just loose the point that i can prove ATI is not better .
Lets make this clear for some time now i have felt this forum run by a 14 year old kid is a joke. Im out and so not coming back. Delet this account ill stick with more uber forums.
PCGEEK, it is a fact that ATI (note, at stock speeds) performs better in D3D games, while nVidia performs better in OpenGL. Look at any game benchmarks and you will see this. When it comes to two comparable cards from both ATI & nVidia, ATI will win in Half-Life 2 (D3D) and nVidia will win in Doom 3 (OpenGl). Of course, if you are measuring a 6600GT to a X850XTPe the ATI will still win in OpenGl games.
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haha you guys just loose the point that i can prove ATI is not better .
Who here said ATI is better then anything as a whole? Nobody did. We simply said ATi has a lead in D3D games and this is a fact.
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Lets make this clear for some time now i have felt this forum run by a 14 year old kid is a joke.
Age has nothing to do with anything at all. Just because my grandpa is old doesn't mean he knows anything about computers and I can guarantee you Predator would run a better site then him since he probably haws never even touched a computer.
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Delet this account ill stick with more uber forums.
No offence to the actual forums you visit, but I have visited HWA, which I see you post a lot at and I have tried to find intelligient posts and every topic I check out has a whole bunch of people who have no idea what they were talking about. I especially liked the topic predator posted about RAID-0 where everybody there clearly showed they had no idea what they were talking about.
I highly suggest different forums if you actually want to learn something. You need to become more open-minded rather then thinking you are always right, when in fact, you are almost always wrong. Just take a look at the Ars forums.
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This topic was cleaned because the posts were going off topic. It has nothing to do with whether or not we lost the argument. Your point of always trying to prove that NVIDIA is better than ATI shows only one thing: fanboy characteristics. Although I hate to say these things, I need to interfere at some time.
I see nothing wrong with a forum run by 14 year olds (and 16 year olds). What does that have anything to do with this? If you feel like this, take it up with me, not with anyone else. Personally, the main difference I see between the adult run forums and these are that the adult ones are more off topic and more violent. If you want to be in that kind of environment, feel free to do so. However, we will not that tolerate that here.
As I said, the topic was cleaned because it was going off topic, and debating whether a 6800GT can outperform a X850XT PE is not the point in a debate of R520 vs. G70. And to add more to that, a stock 6800GT cannot outperform an X850XT PE in DirectX-enhanced games.
More uber forums? Feel free to do so. We are not begging you to stay here.
Once again, I apologize for being frank, but this has gone on long enough.
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Your point of always trying to prove that NVIDIA is better than ATI shows only one thing: fanboy characteristics.
Exactly. Each have their advantages and disadvantages and to say nVidia is better then ATI just shows your ignorance.
Well, I hate to disagree with you, but... Nvidia is obviously better right now. No question. I'm not saying that they're always better, but right now (and for the past few months) they are the clear leader.
Nvidia is better than ATI. That is the case right now. That was not the case when ATI had the 9xxx series, and was not the case when ATI released the x850. But, currently Nvidia is better than ATI.
Well, I hate to disagree with you, but... Nvidia is obviously better right now. No question. I'm not saying that they're always better, but right now (and for the past few months) they are the clear leader.
Right now the 7800GTX is out, while the only new ATI card currently on newegg is the X1800 XL. You are comparing this generation cards with last generation cards.
nVidia is not better then ATI, and vice versa. Each has their advantages and disadvantages. I don't see how anybody can argue this.
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Nvidia is better than ATI. That is the case right now. That was not the case when ATI had the 9xxx series, and was not the case when ATI released the x850. But, currently Nvidia is better than ATI.
It was the same case with the X850 and the 6800 Ultra. ATI performed better in D3D, while nVidia performed better in OpenGL.
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Well I do admit that ATI probably made a mistake with there X1800 XT. I would rather them come out with a 24 or 32 pipeline card, and not a 16 pipeline card. That would be an ideal next gen card.
So, in the past, it was ATI with the lower clock speeds winning, and right now, it's NVidia with lower clock speeds winning.
NVidia being better in Open GL is a fact while ATI does the job in 3D.
But when NVidia does very well in DOOM 3, they defeat ATI by far where as in Half-Life 2, ATI does very well, but does not leave NVidia in the dust, but does beat them but in a small margin though.
Both have there advantages & dis-advantages. But right now, ATI needs to do better. The X1800 XT according to my research is not the card it should be. Where is this ?TRUE? Hyped ?FUDO? they spoke of for a wile now?
I also heard that a simple Bios update will unlock the extra 8 pipes for a total of 24 with the X1800 XT. If this is the case, then what the ?heck? is ATI doing here? With that high clock & memory speed, they can take the league by far with a 24 to 32 pipeline card.
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