Anti-Americanism 'feels like racism'

I recently read an article on the BBC about Anti-Americanism in Britian, I just wondered if their was any American's living in Britian or who have come over to Britian for a holiday and faced Anti-Americanism. As I am British I some times think the American Culture is a bit werid and that the pride that American's have with their President Mr. W'dua. However I would like to ask American what they think of Anti-Americanism and also people who are Anti-Americanism. Please no racist abuse, etc.

Well, I am British but I reckon that the Americans probably get sick of being stereotyped into the 'weird' groups because of the minority letting them down.

Technically it is racism, so the Americans must be sick and tired of it

Yeh i bet...we are having an american exchange at our school.

American Exchange?? With what school? Iv'e never heard of an American Exchange...

Americans getting oppressed? Well, yeah. Because they are generally, thinking they are the world leaders. Which is partly true, but understandingly brushes the more pacifist countries in Europe and the countries in the middle-east, mostly because they are targeting them with their "war on terrorism" campaign.

I'd be more worried about gay/lesbian/bi & transsexual rights, the rights of those who have moved to another country and their offspring, than some billhick from the hills of Texas, to be honest, but that's my opinion.

'Id be more worried about gay/lesbian/bi & transsexual rights'

What do you mean by that?
Do you agree or disagree with gay/lesbian/bi rights?

I'd presume the rights of regular American people are far well better covered, than say, the basic right of a human being to decide with whom he beds. Or marries. Or has children. Or how many partners they have.

That's what I meant.

And yes, I incidentally believe that a rational human being should have the right do to what they want with their social life.

My god I think that this is the first time I have agreed to anything you have said

I to believe that it is up to a person to choose who they bed, Religion really pisses me off as Religion is the true thing that rules the world. However I am now glad that in the UK gays and lesbians can marry and share the same rights as a hertosexual partners.

Im sure that their will be many people on the forum who disagree with me and yourself however all I can say is bring it on: Do they best you can!

I love to piss religious people off its just somthing Im good at, and I love a bit of an argument, because I always win!

(oh and I do realise that its not just religious people who are against gay/lesbian/bi rights).

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do you agree with the right that gays (etc.) to adopt a child - regardless of its sexuality? I know of some guy who had 4 mums. he was a test tube baby (so not quite the same as being adopted) from one of them, they got divorced and each one married another woman. So he has 2 mums and 2 stepmums. Do you agree with that?

Im not saying that i disagree with the marriage right, but i do disagree if children are being adopted (without agreement, or knowledge of the parents' relationship) - the child will be brought into an entirely unnatural existence - nature allows people to be homosexual (as they are naturally homosexual), but does not allow homosexuals to have children.

i'm not religious at all and i reckon that most things are best done naturally (i.e however nature and evolution allows something to occur) - obviously the use of technology to aid this is acceptable. Basically, and this applies to the above paragraph in particular, i think that nature should determine the vast majority of rights for each individual (i.e. if a gay wants to marry someone else, he is not prevented by nature, and therefore has the right. if a gay wants to have a child, he is prevented by nature, and therefore should not have the right - unless the child wants the person as a father, which is teh right of teh child). Id just like to note here that i dont feel particularly strongly about this matter - so dont anyone be offended by my comments - it is purely a speculation, with some opinion.

P.s.: How the he1l did we get from a thread on anti-americanism/racism to gay rights?

I believe that most problems stem from the social stigma against these kinds of families, I know of one pair, couple, trio, who is trying to have a baby. There is one guy and couple of girls, all in love with each other.

Is that an unhealthy envinronment to grow, d'ye reckon? Or one with two guys, or two girls?

well, the situation that you are describing is slightly different. The male can only have the child with one female - therefore the child only has one biological father and one biological mother - as nature intended. The connection that the other female has may be as a step-mother to a child (i.e. not a biological mother, yet still in the same role and position as a biological mother would have to a child). Nature makes it impossible for a child to have more than two parents - the child may only inherit a minimum (and maximum ) of 23 chromosomes from each parent to have 46 chromosomes (min and max)

as far as social stigma goes, it really depends on teh culture i guess, and how receptive society is to change. for years, many families, particularly in teh middle east (where it is socially and legally acceptable), have consisted of a male and several females. Such groups exist throughout the natural world - i.e. an alpha male lion and lionesses in a pride. This social structure, in fact, aids evolution - the most able male is able to reproduce with the most females, therefore having the most offspring - it is nature's way.

Society changes at such amazing rates these days, that we will not be able to predict what will be construed as socially acceptable or unacceptable in teh future. Furthermore, advancements in technology will put a new slant on the issue (i.e. with cloning).

Yep. I don't particularly care if a kid has more than couple of parents, or genes from more than few parents, it's just that the social stigma makes it difficult and worriesome for the child. Which is why they're planning not to let homosexual partnerships to adopt a children, even though they'd be otherwise just fit or even more fit than some hetero-couples to take care of them.

yeah i agree - social stigma does make a big difference

Btw, about anti-Americanism, racism is defined as:
"hatred, rivalry or bad feeling between races"

Race is defined as:
"any of the major divisions of humankind distinguished by a particular set of physical characteristics, such as size, hair type or skin colour."

This means that, were a European Caucasian to insult a Caucasian American, it cannot be construed as racism (i am using caucasians as an example because they are the most populous race in both regions).

i'm not sure if Gay and Lesbien Marrages are allowed in the UK... but let me start on religion, Ive shadowed my statement to the Great Debates here: So if you want to argue, just go here:

Religion exists because of Control, A Good way of contolling people, now Imn no crank, but I its pretty obvious... Religion is the cause of all conflict.
Heres someone you should listen to...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins#Religion
In January 2006, Dawkins presented a two-part Channel 4 documentary entitled The Root of All Evil?, addressing what he sees as the malignant influence of organised religion in society.

Thanks