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OC'ing Athlon 64 w/ Memory Controller Issues!
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Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:05 pm Reply and quote this post
Never Lower the CPU Multiplier when OC'ing the Athlon 64. :)
The problem is that the Memory Controller feeds off the CPU Multiplier. The faster the Multiplier the better overall system performance.

Now if you have a CPU with a locked multiplier & you cannot go over 10x then leave it @ 10x. And just play with the HTT. P.S. The Athlon 64's have no FSB they have HTT.

The HTT is 200MHz default.
The HTT multiplier is 5x default.
So, 200MHz x 5 = 1000MHz (2000MHz DDR)
CPU Frequency = 2.00GHz ((HTT 200MHz x 10(CPU Multiplier))
If you change the HTT anywhere between 201 to 250 then you need to reduce the HTT multiplier to 4x.

The HTT is 250MHz OC.
The HTT multiplier is now 4x.
So, 250 x 4 = 1000MHz (2000MHz DDR)
CPU Frequency = 2.50GHz ((HTT 250MHz x 10(CPU Multiplier))
Can you see how this works? You are keeping the HTT speed at a stable speed while OC'ing the CPU Frequency.  

The HTT is 280MHz OC.
The HTT multiplier is now 4x.
So, 280 x 3 = 840MHz (1680MHz DDR)
CPU Frequency = 2.80GHz ((HTT 280MHz x 10(CPU Multiplier))
Now with this, you increase the CPU Frequency to 2.80GHz but lose on the HTT speed. This is why you NEVER Lower the CPU Multiplier when OC'ing.


I could of done this.
The HTT is 280MHz OC.
The HTT multiplier is now 4x.
So, 280 x 4 = 1120MHz (2240MHz DDR)
CPU Frequency = 2.80GHz ((HTT 280MHz x 10(CPU Multiplier))
But there may be stability issues due to the HTT being higher than the 1000MHz mark. Especially when you have an OC of 2.80GHz.

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Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:32 am Reply and quote this post
well i did lol. It seems to be more stable and runs cooler. I gained nothing on speeds but at least i didnt loose speeds. I find that going to high after droping the multi will cost you on stats. If i go to 260 its unstable.
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Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:21 am Reply and quote this post
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well i did lol. It seems to be more stable and runs cooler. I gained nothing on speeds but at least i didnt loose speeds. I find that going to high after droping the multi will cost you on stats. If i go to 260 its unstable.

It could still be somehing simple, like you have maxed out your CPU Vcore & you need more &/or your system is getting too hot, even though it's only 50C or so. Your motherboard may be set @ default to auto restart when Temps go up. :)


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Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:24 am Reply and quote this post
ya i gave up and whent back to normal figured out my PCI clocks are not working so i took them out was able to get 248 FSB.
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Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:47 pm Reply and quote this post
Wait, so on Athlon 64's it's better to increase the multiplier, rather than the FSB?

Because I believe in Athlon XP's, it was the other way around.

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Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:48 pm Reply and quote this post
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Wait, so on Athlon 64's it's better to increase the multiplier, rather than the FSB?

Because I believe in Athlon XP's, it was the other way around.

Yes, Either keep the Athlon 64 CPU Multi @ default or increase it. DO NOT Decrease it.
The Athlon XP performs better with increasing the FSB & lowering the Multi.

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Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:37 am Reply and quote this post
There is a fine balance to over clocking. I have found that if your having a hard time over clocking enough to fully power the PC 4000 ram that requires a FSB of 250 you can drop the CPU multiplier by 1 and up the front side buss. It seems the memory multiplier can be very tricky. Do not over clock to far or you will loose performance when dropping the multi.
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:44 am Reply and quote this post
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There is a fine balance to over clocking. I have found that if your having a hard time over clocking enough to fully power the PC 4000 ram that requires a FSB of 250 you can drop the CPU multiplier by 1 and up the front side buss. It seems the memory multiplier can be very tricky. Do not over clock to far or you will loose performance when dropping the multi.

Yes, I agree.

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Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:45 am Reply and quote this post
IF you thing Athlon 64's are tricky, then try Overclocking an Opteron :)
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:46 am Reply and quote this post
I think the board and ram will controle how high of over clock you get. as well as how stable it is.
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:39 pm Reply and quote this post
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I think the board and ram will controle how high of over clock you get. as well as how stable it is.

Yes, especially with those server boards & such.

Though I did see Opteron CPU's overclocked quite high in a few reviews. I'll look for those reviews & post back. :)

RAM IS FLYING...
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:32 pm Reply and quote this post
:lol:
I see some 'white' space under \"Registered To:\"  B)

Anyways, how many days do you have left in your WinXP 64-bit trial?

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Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:07 pm Reply and quote this post
humm dont realy like sandra show me a everest benchmark ? PLEASE purty PLEASE.
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:46 pm Reply and quote this post
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humm dont realy like sandra show me a everest benchmark ? PLEASE purty PLEASE.

Sandra 2005 is O.K. but favour Intel CPU's over AMD.

It's the full 64-Bit version of Windows XP 64-Bit  :yes:

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Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:23 pm Reply and quote this post
I have sandra but its not very easy to use like everest is.
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