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Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:52 am Reply and quote this post
I was going to work on another project that entailed putting my own 3D models into Garry's Mod, but that all changed when a friend of mine sent me a very tempting instant message. It was less of a message, and, well, more of a.... uhm.... way to get \"into the Windows Vista Beta,\" to say the least.

First thing I'd like to say: Vista runs smooth as butter on this box. No, not the Dell in my sig, but the box I'm about to list below. At this time, I'd like to note that the \"4-6 GHz dual-core\" and \"2 GB RAM\" FUD spread by alternate-OSers can be renamed from \"FUD\" to \"BS.\"

Pikl's Vista Box:
Pentium 4 2.4 GHz, 533 MHz FSB, 512 KB L2
512 MB (2 x256 MB) PC3200 DDR SDRAM
40 GB 7200 RPM Ultra ATA100 HDD
ATI Radeon 9600 XT 128 MB

In any case, I really like Vista. Everything I've installed has worked (except ZoneAlarm Firewall) and it's worked well. This build of Vista is stable, fast, and absolutely gorgeous. I'm really interested in the final version that's been pushed back so many times... because Vista ruled right from the start.

I really liked the user interface. It was sleek, fast, and flat out beautiful. Everything just... looked and felt like it was just working. Few, if any hiccups whatsoever. The glass effect was outstanding, just as were the window effects. Windows don't just pop in and pop out anymore, if you're opening a program, the window fades in and slides forward, where the opposite happens when you're closing one. Real-time previews make themselves known all over the place in Vista, videos and music visualizations continue unabated in Alt + Tab, Flip3D (Windows Key + Tab) and the taskbar hover previews.

Sadly, my Vista box is a little too pokey to do full screen screen recording at 1024x768, let alone 1280x1024. I would have pushed it to 1600x1200, but my monitor doesn't do that. :)

Anyways, pics.






I also made a video, though you may need XviD to play it. If you have DefilerPak, it should work. I tried installing Vista on my laptop (850 MHz, 256 MB SDRAM, Rage 8 MB) but it didn't go. I'm not giving up on Pentium III's yet.

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Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:52 am Reply and quote this post
Well, I am Tri-Booting including the newest Build of Vista. But ATI does not have drivers out for it yet? And NVIDIA only has sound drivers which work.

So, I did not play around with it much, until I can get some working drivers.

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Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:57 am Reply and quote this post
ATI's like... the only hardware maker I could find that had drivers for Vista...

...I didn't need to install them, as my Radeon 9600 is apparently supported from within Windows Vista. I just like to have updated drivers/software, so I got 'em... and Half-Life 2 just finished updating. So I can go and refute the Inquirer now. :)

Windows Vista is running very well on this system, it makes me really wonder what the hell they're doing that requires another eight months. Vista is going to rule.

I haven't done any multi-booting yet... but I'm going to put Kubuntu Linux 5.1 on here (for GRUB only :D) and then I'm gonna try something else...

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Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:23 am Reply and quote this post
I agree.  I love it, too.  What build are you using?
In regards to that improved Alt+Tab - I hope there aren't any problems with it like there is with topdesk.  I guess topdesk uses OpenGL, so it doens't work when you have games running (and visa versa)

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Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:25 am Reply and quote this post
I have build 5342, and I'm about to run Half-Life 2: Lost Coast. Be right back. :)
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Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:31 am Reply and quote this post
Yeah, every new build is starting to look better and better. Hopefully Microsoft just sticks with what they said earlier about making Vista relatively cheap, compared to earlier operating systems.
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Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:40 pm Reply and quote this post
theyre taking forever to make sure ity doesnt run on macs ;)
and how do games run on vista?


nice vid btw

how much space does vista take on the harddrive?


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Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:30 pm Reply and quote this post
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Well, I am Tri-Booting including the newest Build of Vista. But ATI does not have drivers out for it yet? And NVIDIA only has sound drivers which work.

So, I did not play around with it much, until I can get some working drivers.

If you care to look at NVIDIA's driver section, you will find drivers for Vista x86 and Vista x64. ;)

http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp


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Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:05 pm Reply and quote this post
Wanna tell me how to get into this program?
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Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:57 pm Reply and quote this post
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If you care to look at NVIDIA's driver section, you will find drivers for Vista x86 and Vista x64.


I already posted a link to ATI's Vista drivers in my reply to Super XP. The word \"them\" in paragraph two is hyperlinked (we could stand to have underlined hyperlinks, it's hard to see 'em the way they are). For clarity, they're here:

https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default...e&folderID=5712

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theyre taking forever to make sure ity doesnt run on macs  ;)


Just about aaaaany Intel Mac (even, possibly, the Mac Mini with GMA950) will run Vista just fine.

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and how do games run on vista?


I played some Half-Life 2: Lost Coast. I'll be honest - it was very choppy, but I could play it. I am willing to bet this had to do with my limited RAM more than anything else... but there's no question that Vista eats a modest bit more RAM than Windows XP.

Still, when I played Lost Coast, the load times were incredulous. Windows detected this and had a dialog that said \"System Slowdowns detected,\" with some options to turn off some of the background stuff (I opted not to, for kicks). T'was neat.

EDIT: I made a video of my gaming. Once again, XviD is needed, DefilerPak works.

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how much space does vista take on the harddrive?


A gargantuan amount. And by \"gargantuan amount,\" I mean that the \"C:\WINDOWS\\" folder is 6.78 GB.


Last edited by A_Pickle on Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:44 pm; edited 1 time in total

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Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:19 pm Reply and quote this post
no i was taking about detecting the mac and refusiong to work with it anyways

HL2 Coast on your computer there runs about the same as regular HL2 without special effects runs on mine (without those long hiccups) actually it runs on mine i little faster than that but not much.

p.s. i can watch your videos just fine in window media player.


Last edited by krazykaveman on Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:19 pm; edited 1 time in total

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Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:42 pm Reply and quote this post
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no i was taking about detecting the mac and refusiong to work with it anyways


That would lose sales on Microsoft's part. They wouldn't be inclined to do that.

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HL2 Coast on your computer there runs about the same as regular HL2 without special effects runs on mine (without those long hiccups) actually it runs on mine i little faster than that but not much.


Yeah, it's the long hiccups that I was getting at. That's a RAM problem, I imagine with a gig of RAM you'd be just fine.

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Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:27 am Reply and quote this post
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A gargantuan amount. And by \"gargantuan amount,\" I mean that the \"C:\WINDOWS\\" folder is 6.78 GB.

Mine is only less then 5GB, and total installation is 5.17 (I have installed firefox, I believe that's all that I have installed so far, other then drivers).
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Wanna tell me how to get into this program?

Sure.  PM me.  (against rules to post it here :P )

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Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:31 pm Reply and quote this post
I got a copy... build 5342.  Installing to a 2nd hard drive as I type.

It's weird.  I had a 65GB partition that I used for all things not Windows, and I would always keep it about 5-15GB empty... but then I added a 120GB HDD and now I have 5GB free on the 65GB partition and only 30GB on the 120GB HDD...

Weird how junk expands to fill the alloted space. :(

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Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:36 pm Reply and quote this post
Hey Pikl... what build are you running?  5342 is not letting me run my video card... At all.  I see a good theme, but its no Aero.

It upsets me, because if the video card worked, I just may have fun using Visa.  However, even with 1GB of RAM, it is SLOW! (with 44 processes running... w/o any programs running)  Windows is using 425+MB of RAM. Also, there are a lot of bugs for the more advanced areas (such as computer properties).

I may just install 5308 to see if that works.


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