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Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:17 pm Reply and quote this post
what's better... 2 6800gt in sli or 1 7800gt NOT gtx...that's way too expensive...cuz with evga...my 90days switching thing is about to expire and about to buy BF2, maybe even today... and yah i wanna upgrade my graphics regardless...and i was thinking about either buying anoter 6800gt in the near future, or getting a 7800gt....any suggs?
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:29 pm Reply and quote this post
Go with the 7800GT. It will give you much better performance at higher resolutions and has newer features.

SLI is just a waste of money.


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Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:54 pm Reply and quote this post
Yep, go with a 7800GT.  Then, when you need more power, get a second 7800GT.
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:12 pm Reply and quote this post
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Yep, go with a 7800GT.  Then, when you need more power, get a second 7800GT.

I agree.

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Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:21 pm Reply and quote this post
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Yep, go with a 7800GT.  Then, when you need more power, get a second 7800GT.

You are recommending right now for him to get a 7800GT instead of two 2x 6800GT's, but then you recommend getting 2x 7800GT's instead of whatever the next gen cards are.

By the time he adds another card he would be much better off buying a faster single card.  SLI is just a complete waste of money.

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Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:00 pm Reply and quote this post
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Go with the 7800GT. It will give you much better performance at higher resolutions and has newer features.

SLI is just a waste of money.

There are NO new features in the 7800's.  They just run faster.

2x6800GT's will run about as fast, if not a little faster on average.

Keep this in mind, however:

With SLI, you have access to 8x and 16x AA.  I personally use these SLI modes... Great peformance and insane visuals.

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Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:20 pm Reply and quote this post
The 7800GT would be better to have because it would offer mostly comparable performance and new feutures like TAA, second rev Pure Video, and better performance above 16x12.
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:21 pm Reply and quote this post
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Yep, go with a 7800GT.  Then, when you need more power, get a second 7800GT.

You are recommending right now for him to get a 7800GT instead of two 2x 6800GT's, but then you recommend getting 2x 7800GT's instead of whatever the next gen cards are.

By the time he adds another card he would be much better off buying a faster single card.  SLI is just a complete waste of money.

When he needs the extra power, 7800GTs will be down to like $100.  Also, by then, games will utilize SLI much better.  So, he is doubling his performance for $100.  He won't be able to find a new card for just that amount over what he'll get for his current 7800GT.

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Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:32 am Reply and quote this post
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When he needs the extra power, 7800GTs will be down to like $100. Also, by then, games will utilize SLI much better. So, he is doubling his performance for $100. He won't be able to find a new card for just that amount over what he'll get for his current 7800GT.


If enough time has passed where the 7800GT's are around a $100 then it would really be stupid to waste your money on buying another. It would be about two generations behind by then.

What I think is funny is that you basically contradicted yourself. You first told him to get a 7800GT instead of 2x 6800GT's. However, then you recommend him getting 2x 7800GT's as opposed to the next generation of cards. So, by your flawed logic it would be best for him to get another 6800GT now. However, you recommend differently?  :rolleyes:

It would be best to buy a single 7800GT now and when the time comes where his performance isn't up to his standards he can sell it, and buy a newer single card. This would give him better performance then 2x 7800GT's and would cost less overall. You even agreed to this by recommending the 7800GT over 2x 6800GT's, but you are still arguing with me. That makes a lot of sense...

SLI is a complete waste of money. That is the bottom line. It definitely does not double performance either.


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Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:57 am Reply and quote this post
It is not 'flawed logic'.  As I see it, there really is no need for anything above a 6800GT currently, and that's the reason that getting a second 6800GT is not worth the money.  When you'll actually need a second 6800GT, getting a second one would be worth it more than replacing it with a 7800GT.  But, as it is, the 6800GT is still fairly new, so it is costly to go with it in SLI.
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:59 am Reply and quote this post
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SLI is a complete waste of money. That is the bottom line. It definitely does not double performance either.

In 3DMark it does.  And that's why I think, within a couple years, it will for games.  Game makers will write stuff to utilize it.

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Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:33 am Reply and quote this post
When the 7800GT is that old it would be really stupid to buy another for SLI. I know you cannot run a 9800 Pro in SLI, but lets use it as an example. The 9800 Pro right now is ~$100 (the price point where you said adding another 7800GT would be good idea). Now, do you honestly think if somebody had a single 9800 Pro now that adding another would be a good idea? It would not be a good idea becuse of how old it is. You would be better off selling your 9800 Pro and buying a new single card.

This is exactly what I am saying now. When the time comes he would be better off selling the 7800GT and buying a new one. Overall he would spend less and get better performance. The bottom line is SLI is a complete waste of money and it definitely should not be used for future-proofing.


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Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:31 pm Reply and quote this post
Here is my opinion on this...

Go with a 2nd 6800GT (if you really really want the extra speed).

Why?
1. Cheaper than a 7800GT
2. Slightly faster
3. When its time to upgrade again, you will likely want a next gen card anyway.  A 7800GT is NOT a next-gen card.


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Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:16 pm Reply and quote this post
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Cheaper than a 7800GT


A single one would, but that is because it is a lot slower. Also, if he sells his current 6800GT he could get a 7800GT without spending much at all.

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Slightly faster


If running at high resolutions the 7800GT would perform much better then 2x 6800GT's. A 7800GT also offers feutures like TAA, and second rev Pure Video.

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A 7800GT is NOT a next-gen card.


A 7800GT is this generaton, while a 6800GT is last generation...

His best option would be to sell his 6800GT and buy a 7800GT. I don't see how anybody could argue that this is not his best option.

Right now on ebay I see a 6800GT AGP card going for $260.00 with 28 bids. I am not saying he will get that much, but lets use it as an example.  Now, lets look at the price of a 7800GT.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...1549681&CatId=0

If he sold his 6800GT for $260 he would only have to spend $30. So, lets look at what it would cost him.

2x 6800GTs =  $259 (lowest on newegg)
7800GT = $30

I think it is pretty obvious that buying a 7800GT would be MUCH smarter.

So, I will say this again. SLI is a complete waste of money.


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Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:09 pm Reply and quote this post
Buying a 7800GT would be wiser than buying 2 6800GT's. And since Milan is using eVGA's Step Up program, he would only have to pay for the price difference between the 6800GT & the 7800GT.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814130247

The non-overclocked 7800GT costs about 50-60$ more than the 6800GT, so Milan only has to pay the price difference which is 50-60$. If he were to buy another 6800GT, that would cost him about 280$.

To add further, the Neo 2 Platinum motherboard (which MillZZ has) does not have 2 PCI-Express ports for SLI, nor even 1 PCI-Express port because the board has AGP 8x. So, he would have to anyways upgrade his motherboard.

2 6800GT's right now would be a waste, especially since we know that G80 is looming near. So, the 7800GT's would be more future proof as well.


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