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Intellegence services? Spies? Every country uses them, intellegence and counter intellegence just use google its rife. China vs USA and Russa and much of asia.
If they are balanced, why have they not highlighted on the impeach cheney movement?
Because that's a wacko, extreme leftist movement. Most people are content with adhering to our stable government system, rather than taking after the ways of countries like Venezuela or Guatemala, who can't have a stable government for any length of time. So most of us will just wait out the next year, when Bush and Cheney will be removed as per every other American presidency.
When you can prove that Bush and/or Cheney conspired to do anything outside of the law -- you have a case for impeachment. As far as I know, though, "I'm an angry liberal and I hate Bush and his cronies" doesn't count as a legitimate argument.
mac_pro wrote:
Why are they not promoting Ron Paul?
Because that would be quite subjective. If they were balanced, they'd provide people with even information about all candidates -- not just promotional to Ron Paul. What the hell is your definition of the word "balanced," anyways?
mac_pro wrote:
I am making that comment regarding musolini's definition of it being "corporatism".
We already knocked that out the window, because as I recall, you were downright wrong about all the media sources being under one roof. "Corporatism" my foot. America isn't fascist -- you have yet to provide any facts supporting your outright ludicrous claim. Maybe you think it's popular to bash conservatives and the current government as do a lot of people, but none of you extreme leftist nutjobs seem to recall that in "Fascist" countries, media was under the government's control. Dissident reporters were SHOT, if you recall.
mac_pro wrote:
The media CAN LIE ON TELEVISION AND THEY HAVE NUMEROUS TIMES TO COUNT! There were two FOX News employees fired just for trying to tell the truth about a product, and they lost in their court case to fight for their jobs.
I'd rather have a link to the incident that you refer to, rather than take your word for it. See, I do this thing called "research" before I form my opinion, and it's amazing what you can find out.
sa_rocky wrote:
this is going too well!!!
i started to know how many people like or hate USA!!
almost everyone is with me!!
1.) This is not going "well," you're an idiot and kind of a sicko to even think that.
2.) No one is "with" you. You can barely type, and you have yet to present any reasonable arguments. You just hate.
sa_rocky wrote:
Civilians of USA:: Are U blaming ur Govt.? or yourselves!!??
I'd like to know what I'm blaming any group or entity for before I answer your fairly arbitrary question.
mac_pro wrote:
I think we can blame both cause the democracy our forefathers had was based off people power.
We never had a democracy, especially in the beginning. This country has ALWAYS been a Republic, and the early days of this country were much, MUCH less for people-power. Most people weren't even allowed to vote -- that was the duty of the Electoral College, who were basically there to vote for the people -- not necessarily with them.
sa_rocky wrote:
what do u think about CIA or NSA?
They kick ass.
Sam England wrote:
Well hey we all know Facebook... CIA? Take a look at this topic on the iVirtua Community: Facebook's Draconian Rules: We Own You and Your Content and the CIA's perfect personal database
Yes, "we all know" that, based on a few unsupported, unscrupulous words in a forum post, Facebook is clearly in league with the CIA.
...that was sarcasm, I hope you realized. Honestly, it's rather amazing what people immediately think when an ex-CIA member in business invests in something. If they invest in Facebook, so what? Does that automatically make Facebook a CIA operation? It might come as a cold surprise to anyone that Rupert Murdoch, the chairman of mac_pro's favorite company, News Corporation, owns MySpace.
1.) This is not going "well," you're an idiot and kind of a sicko to even think that.
2.) No one is "with" you. You can barely type, and you have yet to present any reasonable arguments. You just hate.
to mr. A-Pickle
Enjoy ur after US army life.
Do u know armies of USA dont know what r they doing?
They just enjoy to Kill Civilians not the Enemy army!!!!!
Cause they know how to handle enemy armies!!
and every man of this world is syco not only me!!
Enjoy with ur great military(after) life officer!!
: SIR! YES!! SIR!!!
to USA:
u have great soldiers. they can only take some drinks, play with girls(r they really girls?) and kill people!!
USA killed so many innocent peoples in IRAQ why?
cause USA have nothing with them!!!
All this war happened by USA to catch SADDAM!!
i dont know why this peoples had done with USA??
all these countries of UN just fear USA cause they have so called nuclear
weapons!!!!
USA have the Area 51(lol) with some hole!!!
Their best weapon is they hate the world because they think They r the best!!
SO USA ENJOY UR GREAT LIFE!!
for those of you who have been here, you know what you're talking about.
as for the rest of you, you shouldnt even have an opinion on us because you only know a small percentage of what goes on here.
i can tell u something!! just u can have many many $$ for small works!!
and in Bangladesh A rikshaw-pullar does more then u!!
Because we're not idiotic extremists, we're a stable and civilized nation, and we know that in one year, we will be able to re-elect our leaders getting rid of this so-called fascist government.
One nice thing about this "Fascist" government is that they more or less give a shit about the military. Which I'm a member of.
thats why u love it cause u love to kill people without any reason and hesitate!!
if u read mario puzos's GODFATHER,
Don Corlione said "If any cop arrest my son, or shot by police, or killed by anyone or even a THUNDER hits him, I will not forgive anyone of this council!!"
so if i die its US!!! LOL!!
It is a love-hate relationship for me just like my relationship with my PC. I hate it when I get Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) and I love it when I realize the good things it has done for me.
I think it's pretty hard to judge a country by a few people that run it..
The people that run America are complete bastards, but America is generally ok, but this applies to most countries to be honest.. in the UK our government are complete bastards too.. just ona smaller scale than the USA.
Because that's a wacko, extreme leftist movement. Most people are content with adhering to our stable government system, rather than taking after the ways of countries like Venezuela or Guatemala, who can't have a stable government for any length of time. So most of us will just wait out the next year, when Bush and Cheney will be removed as per every other American presidency.
Stable? Under corporatists ways sure.
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When you can prove that Bush and/or Cheney conspired to do anything outside of the law -- you have a case for impeachment. As far as I know, though, "I'm an angry liberal and I hate Bush and his cronies" doesn't count as a legitimate argument.
http://kucinich.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=3750 False pretenses leading us to war.
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Because that would be quite subjective. If they were balanced, they'd provide people with even information about all candidates -- not just promotional to Ron Paul. What the hell is your definition of the word "balanced," anyways?
I don't know what yours are I was just making an example of a candidate who is not publicized. Mit Romney is another one along with Dennis Gavel?
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We already knocked that out the window, because as I recall, you were downright wrong about all the media sources being under one roof. "Corporatism" my foot. America isn't fascist -- you have yet to provide any facts supporting your outright ludicrous claim. Maybe you think it's popular to bash conservatives and the current government as do a lot of people, but none of you extreme leftist nutjobs seem to recall that in "Fascist" countries, media was under the government's control. Dissident reporters were SHOT, if you recall.
Reporters for the truth can't even get through. Why has the media not made a big story about the North American Union? The only one media outlet was CNN that did that one. Why does the media not report more on poltiics than for say celebrities? Maybe to hide dirt? Why has there been alot more classification of documents? http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2004/09/wt091804.html
Last time I knew, we have 100,000 private contractors in Iraq which is completely ludicrous.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/04/AR2006120401311.html
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I'd rather have a link to the incident that you refer to, rather than take your word for it. See, I do this thing called "research" before I form my opinion, and it's amazing what you can find out.
Really, I am surprised you haven't shown me your research and then making a claim. Calling pot the kettle black eh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axU9ngbTxKw
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We never had a democracy, especially in the beginning. This country has ALWAYS been a Republic, and the early days of this country were much, MUCH less for people-power. Most people weren't even allowed to vote -- that was the duty of the Electoral College, who were basically there to vote for the people -- not necessarily with them.
So then how did we get freed from England's control?
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...that was sarcasm, I hope you realized. Honestly, it's rather amazing what people immediately think when an ex-CIA member in business invests in something. If they invest in Facebook, so what? Does that automatically make Facebook a CIA operation? It might come as a cold surprise to anyone that Rupert Murdoch, the chairman of mac_pro's favorite company, News Corporation, owns MySpace.
Murdoch turned the Sun around completely around from politics to a moden day sensationalistic newpaper.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sun_(newspaper)#The_Sun_goes_Labour_again
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