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Down the years we've seen some anniversary editions and special editions of games being released, more recently we've seen full-on remakes and new visions of old games arriving in the form of Resident Evil on GC and Doom3 on PC/Xbox.
Now, as the examples above proved, these remakes can work, but is it an avenue that should be explored further? I know what you're thinking: "re-releasing old games? You're having a laugh!"
But looking at Doom3, there are massive possibilities for gaming remakes (most of you may know that Doom3 is actually a re-telling of the original Doom) as it was a complete overhaul of the original and as a result, became an entirely new game - albeit with a similar theme.
So, rather than the shoddy ports we see on all formats (handhleds seem to be a prime target though) can 'real' remakes work? Films have managed to do it - okay, the successful ones are fairly uncommon - so why can't games manage to do it right?
Yes game remaking is good for some companies that are developing it and some don't
Take Ninja Gaiden (xbox) for an example. A classical game on NES, later on SNES. To some people the game was awesome to their eyes(not to me), companies even made anime series of it.
Tecmo the creators of Ninja Gaiden takes another step forward to reinvent the game again. With awesome graphics, superb storyline and awesome gameplay. This are the type of remaking we want! And every gamers who played this game loves it! It won many awards including game of the year!
Companies like SEGA, who keeps on remaking and retelling Sonic the Hedgehog don't quite understand the pattern of Sonic!
SEGA mostly listen to the die hard Sonic fans and ones in Asia. But they don't however listen to the causal gamers and ones who left Sonic when it turned to 3D. Causal gamers dislike Sonic going from 2D to 3D, they don't however like too many characters, some are even childesh (Cream & Cheese) and it doesn't feel fast enough.
Let's just hope the new Sonic will be great!
The wrost companies to renovating games is Nintendo! They have recreate Mario to death! Not that much people don't like it anymore. Gamers are now prefering Sonic over Mario.
Look at Mario lastest games.
Mario football (Super Strikers)
Mario Bastketball (was the name!? Mario hoopers!?)
Mario Tennis and so on
Why Mario featuring this!? Can't gamers play something to do with reality? Like gamers featuring the World Cup instead of Mario Super Strikers or games featuring real Basketball NBA
Metroid Prime and it's series is also a fantastic remake. Won many awards, terrific grahics, great storyline and it's nice gameplay.
To me, only companies who understand how causal, normal and hardcore gamers play, are the only one to recreate old classic games. Neo Contra was a terrible remake, Final Fight was a terrible remake. All the weak third parties and low companies are the ones that don't know how to recreate old games.
Movie recreation is good for some directions. Look at the new Superman, not many people seem to like it. I havn't seen it and I know for sure it won't be all that! The new Batman wasn't that great, but was just to renovate Batman and retell the story. Why can't directors that are directing comic movies be like Sam Raimi!?
Conclusion...since I don't know the point and aim of this topic. My work is done here
I don't think I've ever really played any remakes. Making a remake seems OK to me, as long as changes are made to gameplay (not just graphics). One problem with remakes is that they tend to be crappy - as the game "idea" is not new.
I don't think I've ever really played any remakes. Making a remake seems OK to me, as long as changes are made to gameplay (not just graphics). One problem with remakes is that they tend to be crappy - as the game "idea" is not new.
you said you have never played any remakes...so how come making a remake seems ok to you...and you think they mostly make big change to the graphics. And then you say the reason why a remake seems crapy:P
His Comment makes sense to me I think basically a "port" as such is not that good, unless its to handheld, like SimCity 2000 where the early '90s sim game suited the GBA. Remakes like fims usually keep the concept of the game the same, with sometimes improved or changed gameplay, maybe on newer hardware, and better "graphics" as such. I don't think gaming is old enough for remakes, but it is fast moving, the industry tends to go with sequels as opposed to remakes, i.e. They don't Remake Driver, they release Driver 3 for istance. I know they sometimes re-distribute the older "classic" version with the newer games, I was trying to think of some remakes, and I just remembered Halo 2 is coming out on PC for Vista, which will be a 2 year old Port or remake as such. Now obviously gameplay and graphics will change, and the concepts remain the same, I think what will make it sucessful is to introduce many new features, maybe some from upcoming Halo 3... I don't think adding a few extra maps will make it too "legendary", but it will certainly be sucessful, and a most wanted due to the sheer popularity of the game, and the fact we all wanted it on PC. See the Halo 2 on Vista Topic for more on that
you seem to be confused with is post
They are two different things.
Ports and remake
Port is basically just transfering a game into another system, with either deleted stuff, added stuff or with extra's. Take RE4 for an example, Capcom knew it won't recieve that much rating and accepting for the ps2. So they decided to include more scenes, playable character and few extras. But when they port they don't need to change the history, timeline, encyclopedia or storyline.Just contents will be excluded or included.
Can someone name me some few games whereas they ported a game and changed some storyline or history
Remake, is just remaking a game, either classic, retro or recent game. Remaking/Retelling the storyline, graphics, characters and world
The best remake I've seen in a time is The Settlers II: The Next Generation. It's just the same as tho original, as in feeling as the system istself. The only new is the engine which is the Heritage of Kings'.
But this can be also a problem. For us, old foxs this is a real gift but for the new gamers just a dozen-game which has no real sense. They've grew up on RTS' and FPS' and they are just not be able to value a great remake as TNG. That's why it's going to be a busniss loss and noone's going to follow the Blue Byte. And if they had knew for sure they had never put it onto the market.
BTW some talked about Doom 3. Yes, that is a good example but don't forget it has a new view about the theme. They've made a real horror game from a satanic action-shooter so the original spirist has been lost...
My favorite remake from the past is Battlezone. That was a very good game but nobody bought it, hell knows why. Maybe they belived that an old game can be only boring...
Yes I think remakes are good. Its a chance to make a great game even better. Maybe they forgot something when the original game came out and they wanted to add it in without changing things to much.
Hey theres nothing wrong with remakes some are quite good. For example New Super Mario Brothers on the DS is a remake of the classic Mario Brothers with some new technology a new look and new worlds put in. Um lets see just look at all the pokemon games some of those are just basically retellings of the same thing with new things added. I don't know what else to say here but sometimes remakes are better then no makes at all.
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I think basically a "port" as such is not that good, unless its to handheld, like SimCity 2000 where the early '90s sim game suited the GBA. Remakes like fims usually keep the concept of the game the same, with sometimes improved or changed gameplay, maybe on newer hardware, and better "graphics" as such. I don't think gaming is old enough for remakes, but it is fast moving, the industry tends to go with sequels as opposed to remakes, i.e. They don't Remake Driver, they release Driver 3 for istance. I know they sometimes re-distribute the older "classic" version with the newer games, I was trying to think of some remakes, and I just remembered Halo 2 is coming out on PC for Vista, which will be a 2 year old Port or remake as such. Now obviously gameplay and graphics will change, and the concepts remain the same, I think what will make it sucessful is to introduce many new features, maybe some from upcoming Halo 3... I don't think adding a few extra maps will make it too "legendary", but it will certainly be sucessful, and a most wanted due to the sheer popularity of the game, and the fact we all wanted it on PC. 
And if they had knew for sure they had never put it onto the market.
