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How the hell do i navigate this site? where is the topic starter post, top or bottom? where is quick reply?
To learn more about this software and how to use it you can go to the help centre, if you still can't figure it out, again just contact a member of the community staff who would be more than happy to help you.
Just those you'd find in any beta software (i.e. Repeated already logged in text, cookie problems on login and family filters amongst quite a few), the point I was making was that we are not criticizing spy mac based on the fact that it has the traits of a beta piece of software, rather we are discussing what I explained above; its concepts and what it means for Spymac's development.
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How the hell do i navigate this site?
Try pressing links, they generally take you to the page that is specified in the link text. There are some great courses out there forgetting started with the web, try picking up "EasyPC" Magazine from your local newsagent.
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where is the topic starter post, top or bottom?
Top and Bottom.
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where is quick reply?
There isn't one.
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how many fingers am i holding up?
There up your own ass mate by the looks of things.
Just those you'd find in any beta software (i.e. Repeated already logged in text, cookie problems on login and family filters amongst quite a few), the point I was making was that we are not criticizing spy mac based on the fact that it has the traits of a beta piece of software, rather we are discussing what I explained above; its concepts and what it means for Spymac's development.
This is great, insulting your newest member, shame on you.
Well in that case shouldn't you wait till you pic it apart? wait for the actually release.
Family filters work, its the user that has to flag it with adult content. Its the users fault not the site.
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Try pressing links, they generally take you to the page that is specified in the link text. There are some great courses out there forgetting started with the web, try picking up "EasyPC Magazine from your local newsagent.
Navagation of this site is not so good .. I would pick up a mag but I have reading issues.
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Top and Bottom.
That makes a lot of sense.
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There isn't one.
Pure genius.
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There up your own ass mate by the looks of things.
So ummm if I was a "genious" you would not insult me?
I was implying your not much of a genious seeing as you didnt even bother to read the thread you are replying to and understand what we are saying; which is quite ironic hence your choice of username.
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Not all features are available in the beta, features are still to revealed.
We can see the concept easily from this beta, and any features added are not likely to have a huge impact on the concept.
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Thats why its called BETA.
It isn't called beta actually, they do not call it that. I believe it is an end user preview program of some sort. That would also why I said we are not discussing issues arising from the fact that it is beta, just its concept and USP (yet again I repeat).
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Yeah it does, if your on crack.
Having two buttons means if you are at the bottom of a long thread or the top you can easily start a new topic. It is common across nearly all of the major forum software to have the buttons in this position.
Enough said, and back on topic, I have reposted the last on topic post.
Last edited by Editorial Team on Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:38 pm; edited 1 time in total
So I've searched high and low to find the best comments about Spymac's Leapfrog, so here they are:
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Sorry, but Leapfrog sucks...
peri-archer
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The color scheme of the Frog lacks elegance. The classic SpyMac is also much neater.
GoofyFoot
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I'm having trouble because it's TOO YouTube.
gniknus2006
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The thing about borrowing the ideas of others is that you have to change them, make them better, make them mind-blowing.
I don't see any of that in Leapfrog yet.
raycolex
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Clean? Show me some white space. There isn't a spot for the eye to rest. It's totally in your face, abrasive design. And, if you like Easter eggs, the colors are lovely.
raycolex
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Lots of places for R rated and X rated free porn on the internet...Spymac should not be one of them.
lakelady
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Were promises made broken...yet again. Yes. Were the needs of the community,especially those that have been most loyal that populate these forums, overlooked? Absolutely, if only for a matter of days. Does the design of the Leapfrog section of Spymac leave something to be desired? IMHO, yes it looks designed by programers to be functional if not aesthically pleasing. It doesn't have the class and elegance of 'classic'. Do they still need lessons in implementing change and communicating with this community? You betcha!
edscoble
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Somebody, KILL the **** frog
It's so bloody irritating.
kittyangel
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I totally agree with Rosalinde and narco. I really think the whole Leapfrog part of the site is just a mixture of myspace and youtube. I really think Spymac should do something more unique than that (like having its own mac like style but not copying successful sites that way). Honestly, if Spymac's selling point is only that, I guess I will rather go to youtube and watch things everyday. At least, there are more things to look at.
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I actually liked the club aspect of old spymac, with spydisc and the hosting, which gave a very mac feel and added nicely to the experience, with all the secret agent kinda spy stuff, its all lost! It went downhill form SM 3 as far as the SPY mac theme goes
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Totally agree. It feels like a YouTube emulation was the initial goal, INITIAL being the key word. I like to think more Spymac personality will bleed into the design over the coming weeks after the launch.
AtariST response:
-Popular contributers earn money based on how much ad revenue they produce - Flyxia Does this! -18 different languages
All very well, not a reason id go to spymac alone though -Live videochatting --
I have MSN for that -The FileSucker lets you collect video messages and files from your homepage, blog, myspace etc. FileSucker is at the core of Leapfrog.
Umm isnt that like copy and paste -Snapshots, audio recording right to the browser.
YouTube has this
Nobody will pay for this new service...
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Oh and...
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Clean? Show me some white space. There isn't a spot for the eye to rest. It's totally in your face, abrasive design. And, if you like Easter eggs, the colors are lovely.
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I missed much, just a bunch of videos from other sites uploaded and some bad color choices.
And GadgetDon said...
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At present, the only use of friends in Leapfrog is for sending notes
Mutual friends gone... all that came with them gone... another unique feature gone
Leapfrog was the only way for Spymac to grow and bring in revenue. Unfortunately, these growing pains are showing the bad side of many. Spymac was superior in quality and that should continue to be the goal. I guess it will just take time to whip it into control and be a unique marketable website that generates income. I wonder if the marketing strategy is still based on Mac? That's why I came here.
Great one to add
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You make some valid points. All of the people so far who have posted in these forums have been Spymac members who have stuck with us for years. It will be interesting to see how the public reacts -- new members who have never heard of us.
So dump the 1,000,000 new users and make a youtube clone
Really, first off, get off revenue, and better start copying all the codec from SM3. If they get rid of the Spymac copyright, perhaps someone can take over.
Well that Sam England guy was definitely a member of Spymac at one point because he used that user name here back with Spymac 3. I'm pretty sure he was one of those, Spymac changed, now I'm mad users back when IV launched or something like that. I don't really remember. I do know they need to let it go.
I was not part fo the breakaway, iVirtua was never influenced by SpyMac anf filmn was a club member. Our founder members can tell you that.
But....
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Wow, well from the looks of those screenshots, it would seem that they have finally succeeded in taking the Mac out of Spymac... the site looks like Yahoo! Circa 2001 as viewed in Windows 98.
Why, because they think no innovation has gone into leapfrog? Or is it just because spymac's lost it's Unique Selling Point - Mac related news?
No, because it's clearly written by people with a grudge with Spymac. Leapfrog could have been the seoncd coming and they would have trashed it.
I dunno, it seemed like a pretty fair criticism to me. I looked at the link yesterday, from a previous spymac thread, which you also replied to. Leapfrog does seem like a mish-mash of YouTube and MySpace, and nothing at all like the Spymac (III) that many of us knew and loved.
Also, all of the Leapfrog stuff was promised during the SM4 change-over. I was all for it then, and I still am, but the look and feel really sucks, (excuse my language). It never happened.
Even worse, I ponied up the so-called "founding whatever" fee of thirty bucks or so, and I couldn't even get in, it was by invite only! I just got an endless loop of re-directs. And, the "classic" spymac, (which still didn't provide the functionality of SM3) was down for over four days.
There are several inaccuracies in this thread that I'd like to correct.
First GadgetDon is a member of the community and has developed software for it, he is not in a position to provide an "Official Response" and to claim that he is , is completely disingenuous.
illegally providing access to a private release weakens the credibility of your commentary.
William, you didn't look very hard for positive comments about Leapfrog as I have seen plenty. Has there been criticism, sure? New things always engender criticsm. But there has also been a lot of support within the community for the changes. Sorry but I don't have the time this morning to pull the postive quotes and post them here.
if you are going to quote me, or anyone else for that matter, please don't take it out of context. here's more of what I said...
"With all of this in the air I suggest we all take a step back and take a deep breath and consider where we want to focus our energy. Do we want to spend it complaining? To what purpose? Constructive criticsm certainly. But simply saying 'it sucks' or I hate it gets us nowhere.
Instead let's focus on what has always made this place unique - each other."
and lastly, the purpose of journalism is to clearly, and accurately report the facts to the best of your ability.
Thanks for your valued response Though Im not sure if posting the password was illegal as we signed no agreement to not post it and were not advised to so so.
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