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Sat May 20, 2006 1:44 pm Reply and quote this post
i'm on a tight budget and i need a new desktop pc for gaming. i want the computer to be able to play dawn of war and other stradegy games. I went on the dell website and configured this:

-Intel? Pentium? 4 Processor 640 w/HT Technology (3.2GHz,800FSB)
-1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz
-80GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/ 8MB cache
-Single Drive: 48x CD-RW / DVD-ROM Combo Drive
-13 in 1 Media Card Reader
-17 inch E176FP Analog Flat Panel Monitor
-256MB PCI Express? x16 (DVI/VGA/TV-out) ATI Radeon X600 SE HyperMemory
-Integrated Sound Blaster? Audigy? ADVANCED HD Audio
-Dell A215 Speakers

at this point the computer costs about $800 [USD].

can anyone tell me if this will be sufficient for what games i want to play? also, i would like to know if i can get something similar to this one for cheaper off another website.

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Sat May 20, 2006 1:53 pm Reply and quote this post
Have you considered buiilding one yourself?
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:02 pm Reply and quote this post
the thing is is that i don't know much about buildung PCs. if it would be significantly cheaper than having it already built then i guess i could call over my uncle to help me build it.
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Sat May 20, 2006 3:32 pm Reply and quote this post
okay, i went onto newegg.com and did a little search for parts. here's all of the parts i think i want:

ABIT NI8-SLI GR Socket T (LGA 775) NVIDIA nForce 4 SLI Intel Edition ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813127226
$69.99

HITACHI Deskstar T7K250 HDT722516DLA380 (0A31637) 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive ? OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822145088
$64.99

Intel Pentium 4 630 800MHz FSB LGA 775 EM64T Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819116198
$164.99

CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820145526
$81.99

ASUS Beige 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM ATAPI DVD-ROM Drive Model E616AG BG ? OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16827135059
$21.99

BIOSTAR V6602GS21 Geforce 6600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814141015
$129.99

Creative Sound Blaster SB0570 Audigy SE 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16829102002
$35.00

APEX PC-336 Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 350W Power Supply ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811154054
$30.99

AeroCool TURBINE 2000 120mm Sleeve Case Cooling Fan ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16835129242
$14.99

Acer AL1515 Black 15\" 16ms LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 450:1 0.297mm Pixel Pitch ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16824009077
$149.99

Microsoft Windows XP Professional X64 Edition Single Pack ? OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16837102065
$139.99

Rosewill RKM810BLK Black 104 Normal Keys 20 Function Keys USB RF Wireless Standard Keyboard Mouse Included ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16823201020
$18.99

Logitech X-230 32 Watts 2.1 Speaker ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16836121119
$33.99

this comes to a total of $822.89
cheaper than the dell [by about $20], plus it has a better video card, better hard drive, better sound card and better keyboard, mouse and speakers.
can anyone tell me if these are all compatable and if i have everything i need?


Last edited by tauman5263 on Sat May 20, 2006 3:34 pm; edited 1 time in total

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Sat May 20, 2006 3:51 pm Reply and quote this post
It all looks good to me, except if you want it for gaming, Intel is not the way to go for your processor.  AMD is, by far, the best for gaming.
Plus, that 660GT is starting to get a little on the old side.  It won't be able to play the newest games very well.


Last edited by Josh on Sat May 20, 2006 3:51 pm; edited 1 time in total

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Sat May 20, 2006 4:44 pm Reply and quote this post
Quote:
this comes to a total of $822.89 cheaper than the dell [by about $20], plus it has a better video card, better hard drive, better sound card and better keyboard, mouse and speakers.


The Dell has a better keyboard, mouse and processor. Just thought I'd letcha know.

And, as Josh said, you'll want to go with an AMD processor for gaming right now. Though, I would think the 6600 GT, while not the fastest, would do just fine.

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Sat May 20, 2006 5:59 pm Reply and quote this post
i changed the motherboard, processor and RAM.

BIOSTAR GEFORCE 6100-M9 Socket 939 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813138269
$60.99

HITACHI Deskstar T7K250 HDT722516DLA380 (0A31637) 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive ? OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822145088
$64.99

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 2000MHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819103535
$135.00

Patriot Signature 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) System Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820220079
$156.99

ASUS Beige 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM ATAPI DVD-ROM Drive Model E616AG BG ? OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16827135059
$21.99

BIOSTAR V6602GS21 Geforce 6600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814141015
$129.99

Creative Sound Blaster SB0570 Audigy SE 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16829102002
$35.00

APEX PC-336 Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 350W Power Supply ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811154054
$30.99

AeroCool TURBINE 2000 120mm Sleeve Case Cooling Fan ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16835129242
$14.99

Acer AL1515 Black 15\" 16ms LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 450:1 0.297mm Pixel Pitch ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16824009077
$149.99

Rosewill RKM810BLK Black 104 Normal Keys 20 Function Keys USB RF Wireless Standard Keyboard Mouse Included ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16823201020
$18.99

Logitech X-230 32 Watts 2.1 Speaker ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16836121119
$33.99

$853.90 total. i added another GB of RAM. i took out the operating system because i'm sure my uncle has one somewhere.

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Sat May 20, 2006 6:48 pm Reply and quote this post
I would save the money on the RAM and probably up your video card to like a 6800GS.  Or keep it at 2GB and get the 6800GS... but 2GB won't help a whole lot. (except in BF2)
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Sat May 20, 2006 8:27 pm Reply and quote this post
Going with 2GB is getting closer and closer to the norm.  You really only need 1GB, but it doesn't hurt to have the extra.
But, if going with 1GB will allow you to get a better video card, do so.
Also, that motherboard isn't a very-well known one.  Better to go with DFI, MSI, EPoX, ASUS, ABIT, or maybe Chaintech or Gigabyte.


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Sat May 20, 2006 9:17 pm Reply and quote this post
ASUS K8N-VM Socket 754 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813131588
$64.99

HITACHI Deskstar T7K250 HDT722516DLA380 (0A31637) 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive ? OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822145088
$64.99

AMD Athlon 64 3400+ Newcastle 1600MHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket 754 Processor - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819103484
$149.99

mushkin SP3200 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) System Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820146190
$84.99

ASUS Beige 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM ATAPI DVD-ROM Drive Model E616AG BG ? OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16827135059
$21.99

PNY VCG68128XWB Geforce 6800 128MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814133155
$149.99

Creative Sound Blaster SB0570 Audigy SE 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16829102002
$35.00

APEX PC-336 Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 350W Power Supply ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811154054
$30.99

AeroCool TURBINE 2000 120mm Sleeve Case Cooling Fan ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16835129242
$14.99

Acer AL1515 Black 15\" 16ms LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 450:1 0.297mm Pixel Pitch ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16824009077
$149.99

Rosewill RKM810BLK Black 104 Normal Keys 20 Function Keys USB RF Wireless Standard Keyboard Mouse Included ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16823201020
$18.99

Logitech X-230 32 Watts 2.1 Speaker ? Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16836121119
$33.99

total amount is $755.90. all i have is one question about newegg.com: If you select bill me later as a payment option, how much later will you be billed?

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Sat May 20, 2006 9:48 pm Reply and quote this post
Swap out the video card with:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814102496
SAPPHIRE 100600SR Radeon X800PRO 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail

OR better yet:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814102688
SAPPHIRE 100106L Radeon X850XT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail


Last edited by Greg M. on Sat May 20, 2006 9:49 pm; edited 1 time in total

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Sun May 21, 2006 7:37 am Reply and quote this post
Go with something like this:

Asus A8R-MVP - $95.99
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ - $135
Western Digital SE16 250GB - $89.99
Corsair Value Select 1GB - $79.99
NEC ND-3550A - $33.99
Cooler Master Centurion 5 - $54.99
Fortron AX450-PN - $51.50
ATI Radeon X1800XT - $249
Logitech X-230 - $33.99
Logitech Internet Pro Desktop - $17.99

Total -- $842.43 w/o shipping

If you didn't notice, I didn't list a monitor above. My suggestion is to buy a large used CRT. This will be much better then a cheap LCD for gaming and will save you money. I bought a 22\" CRT for only $90 w/o shipping and it is awesome.

Also, I would suggest looking at ZipZoomFly for some parts instead of Newegg since they offer free shipping on a lot of their products. That could save you quite a bit of money.

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Sun May 21, 2006 10:14 am Reply and quote this post
KoolDrew's configuration is the best bang for the buck.

Last edited by Predator on Sun May 21, 2006 10:24 am; edited 1 time in total

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Sun May 21, 2006 10:52 am Reply and quote this post
I'm thinking about buying a cheap dell and then upgrading it with some of the stuff listed here. I just found a previously ordered new Dimension E510 for $611.95. It doesn't have a video nor a sound card. so i'll add the the suggested video card and a sound card when i get it. This will come to a total of: $806.94.
Here are the specs of the dell:

Hardware:
-Intel Pentium 4 Processor 630 w/HT Technology (3.0GHz,800FSB)
-Genuine Windows XP Home
-1 GB DDR2 NON-ECC SDRAM 533MHz (2 DIMMs)
-16x DVD +/- RW w/dbl layer write capability
-13 in 1 Media Card Reader
-USB Keyboard
-USB 2 Button Mouse
With upgrades:
-SAPPHIRE 100106L Radeon X850XT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
-Creative Sound Blaster SB0570 Audigy SE 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card ? Retail

Software:
-Adobe Acrobat 6.0 Reader
-Dell Direct Download
-Sonic Cineplayer
-Software CD
Software
-Music Match 10.1 Software
-Earthlink ISP Software
-McAfee SecurityCenter with VirusScan, Firewall, Spyware Removal, 24-months
-QuickBooks Simple Start Special Edition
-Image Restore Software
-Earthlink ISP Software
-Support Software
-Operating System CD
-AOL 8.0 ISP Software
-Photo Album 6.0 Starter
-No Productivity Suite - Corel WordPerfect word processor only
-Roxio Creator, My DVD LE
-AOL 9.0 ISP Software
-Windows Media Player
Software

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Sun May 21, 2006 10:12 pm Reply and quote this post
I guess that's ok, but remember two things
The Athlon 3200 will be tons faster in games then the pentium 3.0GHz
And a second thing -
The PSU in the dell will likely not supply enough power for that new video card (Dell goes as cheap as possible with the PSUs), so you'll need to get a new one, most likely.  Which, brings up that the new PSU probably won't fit in the Dell case (dell likes making it so that only their kind works with the case size), and so you'd need to get a new case.  Which, brings up yet another thing.  The Dell motherboard will likely not work in the new case, so you might need to get a new one.
So, I guess you can make your own choice, keeping that in mind :)

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